pmccarthy Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 (edited) BREAKING NEWS: emergency services are currently on the scene in Balwyn North after a light plane was forced to make an emergency landing at a reserve, next to the Eastern Freeway. It's understood the pilot was travelling from Bendigo. It's a Cherokee six, nice landing! Edited February 5, 2023 by pmccarthy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Some people will do anything to avoid road tolls. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGM Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) A photo taken by my father as he cycled along the bike path. It's from Lilydale Airfield - great advertisement for their practice forced landing training! Edited February 6, 2023 by SGM 3 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Well done by the look of it. Now to get it home. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossK Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Very well done when looking at Google maps - shows about 630m of open space from tree line to tree line and they've used about 500m of it. Yes, getting it out is going to be tight 😬, or on a truck ☹️ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 The Authority could never permit taking off from there. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGM Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Looks like they were almost home - but at 1500' and had to act quick. Edited February 6, 2023 by SGM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Carb icing problem? Fitted with an O-540-E4B5, a carburetted engine. Edited February 6, 2023 by onetrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) Pilots should get an OAM when they manage this in the suburbs. Edited February 6, 2023 by RFguy 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Pilots still licensed are only criminals we have not yet caught up with (CASA.) Optimal Aircraft Management award. with clusters from ME. . Nev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Landed right between the cones too - great job. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT9000 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just heard on the news that there was nothing in the tanks but air. Also a pilot witness said they heard it surging before it stopped. It was reported that when it left YBDG it was low on fuel. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Bit silly to do a city orbit in that case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 take a news report with a grain of salt. I reckon 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Grain of salt? The whole salt shaker me thinks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I dont buy it . Pilot of a substantial airplane isnt going to do an orbit low on fuel. As for media reports " It was reported that when it left YBDG it was low on fuel." . what half tanks ?. sure lower than full. Let's wait to find out. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cc Evangeline Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 This narrative can simply not be true. I was at the trail today and this story came straight from the mouth of an onlooker who claimed “it would’ve been an easy landing”… I disagree. No engine failure is easy. The news report discredited the story from the moment it displayed footage of the fuel tanks being drained. I’m not sure what they could be draining if there was no fuel? (See image below from channel 9). The news reporter said that they really didn’t have much information so have obviously chosen to use what they had. They have quite clearly spun this way out of context, clearly not with any general aviation knowledge themselves. The Pilot has done an amazing job, and executed his training well. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I would be sueing the media for deformation if they broadcast that I had run out of fuel when I had not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 12 hours ago, Cc Evangeline said: This narrative can simply not be true. I was at the trail today and this story came straight from the mouth of an onlooker who claimed “it would’ve been an easy landing”… I disagree. No engine failure is easy. The news report discredited the story from the moment it displayed footage of the fuel tanks being drained. I’m not sure what they could be draining if there was no fuel? (See image below from channel 9). The news reporter said that they really didn’t have much information so have obviously chosen to use what they had. They have quite clearly spun this way out of context, clearly not with any general aviation knowledge themselves. The Pilot has done an amazing job, and executed his training well. Did they drain the tanks or did they put fuel in them. Channel 9 footage last night showed the engine started and running like a Cherokee 6 with those red jerry cans sitting where they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 (edited) it would need alot of jerry cans. according to a 1968 PA32-260 POH I have :, and assuming it is a CS prop , at 3400 gross, it needs 1240' over 50' at 2900 gross it needs 1020' over 50' remove the seats and it is 1661 lbs empty. add 2 hours of fuel , and a pilot its likely to be 1950 lbs extrapolating the above, it might get off in 750' to 50 ' ? but that's on bitumen . not grass ! Wow it must have some super performance with 260 hp and 1661 empty . Edited February 6, 2023 by RFguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossK Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 21 minutes ago, turboplanner said: Did they drain the tanks or did they put fuel in them. Channel 9 footage last night showed the engine started and running like a Cherokee 6 with those red jerry cans sitting where they are. I can't see why they'd put 80L in that wing just to test run the engine. The jerrys seem to be nicely arranged around the fuel drain too. 10 minutes ago, RFguy said: remove the seats and it is 1661 lbs empty. add 2 hours of fuel , and a pilot its likely to be 1950 lbs extrapolating the above, it might get off in 750' to 50 ' ? but that's on bitumen . not grass ! It might actually be able to get off in the area they have (600m), that would be impressive. Can't ever see CASA allowing them to do it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spenaroo Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 14 hours ago, CT9000 said: Just heard on the news that there was nothing in the tanks but air. Also a pilot witness said they heard it surging before it stopped. It was reported that when it left YBDG it was low on fuel. im wondering if everything is partially right. and a fuel selector was the issue. happened to pilots before. gives both fuel in one tank to drain, but run dry in the other with nothing but air. pilot too low to run through the full checks and committed to the landing instead of trouble shooting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Just a side interesting point - I read in the POH, burn inboard tanks first because of wing loading limits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Not an uncommon thing to do. Another way it may be put is ALL weight abv xxxx must be "Loaded" as fuel in certain tanks. That' in principle applies to having engines underwing as compared to fuselage mounted Pods in the basic design. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RFguy said: it would need alot of jerry cans. according to a 1968 PA32-260 POH I have :, and assuming it is a CS prop , at 3400 gross, it needs 1240' over 50' at 2900 gross it needs 1020' over 50' remove the seats and it is 1661 lbs empty. add 2 hours of fuel , and a pilot its likely to be 1950 lbs extrapolating the above, it might get off in 750' to 50 ' ? but that's on bitumen . not grass ! Wow it must have some super performance with 260 hp and 1661 empty . There's a PA32-300 model which was popular for the Melbourne- Port Augusta- Coober Pedy- Ayers Rock-Alic Springs-Darwin- Gove-Whitsundays-Melbourne with six pilots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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