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Read on another thread that an RAAus aircraft had a fuel exhaustion and forced landing off- field near YMEK yesterday.

Two occupants, both Ok.

Mayday called and relayed by RFDS.

Pilot confirmed fuel as cause on radio.

 

Don’t know any more about it. Anyone hear any more?

 

Just another reminder about importance of fuel management.

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Might not have been a forced landing due to bad fuel management - it might have been a technical problem such as a cracked fuel line, or some other form of unseen fuel leakage, that reduced available fuel.

Never made the news anywhere, that's surprising, considering a Mayday was called.

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Hey you blokes, I know that we are all good aviators but... Is it possible to use real place names rather than 4letter identifiers. Not everyone has an encyclopedic memory and googling doesn't always work?

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YMEK = why Methuselah, everyone knows.

 

Except I don’t.

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Hey you blokes, I know that we are all good aviators but... Is it possible to use real place names rather than 4letter identifiers. Not everyone has an encyclopedic memory and googling doesn't always work?

 

Yeah. Sorry about that.

YMEK Is Meekatharra.

If you’ve got Oz Runways you can look it up. I usually have to look up places that are outside my normal haunts.

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You have to remember that not all readers of this site are pilots, and many of them are from overseas. I used to say look it up on airport-data.com which boasted that it had all the information you wanted, but unfortunately the only person who can update the airport database is the site owner, and he hasn't been heard from in three or four years. Details of many new or unlisted airports had been notified via the forum, but they have not been added to the database.

 

According to this site there are 613 airports in Australia with ICAO and/or IATA codes, and the site says it lists them all. Maybe Ian could add the link as a resource.

 

Edit: Unfortunately, the site above is not complete. In checking YMEK, I found that YMEL - Melton Victoria, is not listed. The other difficulty is that there is no search function. So you can look up by airport name, selecting the first letter from the list across the top, but searching by ACOA or IATA code is very difficult.

 

Maybe a better option is OurAirports.com. A quick check shows that it lists airfields like Melton, Drouin and St Leonards in Victoria, and it has a search function by name or code.

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Read on another thread that an RAAus aircraft had a fuel exhaustion and forced landing off- field near YMEK yesterday.

Two occupants, both Ok.

Mayday called and relayed by RFDS.

Pilot confirmed fuel as cause on radio.

 

Don’t know any more about it. Anyone hear any more?

 

Just another reminder about importance of fuel management.

is anything known about this? what type of aircraft? any other details?

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Just a reminder here.. If you are not going to reach your destination with the engine running find a new destination where you can land with the engine still running. You have a better chance of a reasonable income. Not saying THAT applies here but.. Nev

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I was stymied by YMEK at first, but I knew it from somewhere in my memory bank - but the memory bank was being recalcitrant. So, Google and "CTRL F" found it pretty much straight up.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_airports_in_Australia

 

YMEK is in the ERSA

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Why don't we just call them by their "real" name for simplicity. We are not submitting a flight plan here. Nev

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It was a Flight Design.

I'm unsure if it was fuel starvation or exhaustion.

The design has had issues with "unporting" in the past.

https://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/ctsw-forced-landing-uk.63589/

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5c1117ede5274a0ad4ea6615/Flight_Design_CTSW_G-KEVK_01-19.pdf

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Report from RAA, Flight Design MC, Meekatharra, 3-6-19

 

"At 4500ft descending for circuit within 10nm approx. of the airport the aircraft experienced fuel starvation. The pilot initiated a glide approach and landed uneventfully in a paddock. A review of navigational flight planning, fuel management and in flight fuel logging principles was undertaken with pilot in addition to confirming the compliance requirements for the flight. As a result of the investigation the aircraft has been removed from service until a fuel calibration check and fuel system inspection has been completed by an appropriately qualified maintenance authority. Further the pilot has been requested to undertake a navigational planning and flight competency review with the local flight training school including completion of an In flight adjustable propeller endorsement required to operate this aircraft."

 

Another rubbish report from RAA, the purpose of reports is for other pilots to learn from previous incidents.

Why was the fuel in the aircraft not reaching the engine?, I guess we will never know. Follow-up report ? Can't recall ever seeing one.

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Report from RAA, Flight Design MC, Meekatharra, 3-6-19

 

"At 4500ft descending for circuit within 10nm approx. of the airport the aircraft experienced fuel starvation. The pilot initiated a glide approach and landed uneventfully in a paddock. A review of navigational flight planning, fuel management and in flight fuel logging principles was undertaken with pilot in addition to confirming the compliance requirements for the flight. As a result of the investigation the aircraft has been removed from service until a fuel calibration check and fuel system inspection has been completed by an appropriately qualified maintenance authority. Further the pilot has been requested to undertake a navigational planning and flight competency review with the local flight training school including completion of an In flight adjustable propeller endorsement required to operate this aircraft."

 

Another rubbish report from RAA, the purpose of reports is for other pilots to learn from previous incidents.

Why was the fuel in the aircraft not reaching the engine?, I guess we will never know. Follow-up report ? Can't recall ever seeing one.

The circumspect nature of this report was possibly as far as an independent organisation can legally go.

Several people have admitted cross country flying with no experience in Fuel management and inflight logging, flight planning for navigation, fuel burn, W&B in recent times so they are tasks quite a few could start learning.

Fuel calibration, and method of confirming tanks full is another subject where at least one aircraft with skinny wings and being used for cross country could do with development of a reliable procedure.

CASA dumped endorsements, not us, so it's not at all surprising that someone could be flying a C/S aircraft with no knowledge other than take off in fin,and set fine on downwind.

So while I agree with you that it's almost criminal that we don't get ATSB reports and MacArthur Job standard analysis any more, there is plenty we could get our teeth into, rather than a pilot excuse himself by saying defensively: "Not me!; I never touch the red knob!"

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Report from RAA, Flight Design MC, Meekatharra, 3-6-19

 

"At 4500ft descending for circuit within 10nm approx. of the airport the aircraft experienced fuel starvation. The pilot initiated a glide approach and landed uneventfully in a paddock. A review of navigational flight planning, fuel management and in flight fuel logging principles was undertaken with pilot in addition to confirming the compliance requirements for the flight. As a result of the investigation the aircraft has been removed from service until a fuel calibration check and fuel system inspection has been completed by an appropriately qualified maintenance authority. Further the pilot has been requested to undertake a navigational planning and flight competency review with the local flight training school including completion of an In flight adjustable propeller endorsement required to operate this aircraft."

 

Another rubbish report from RAA, the purpose of reports is for other pilots to learn from previous incidents.

Why was the fuel in the aircraft not reaching the engine?, I guess we will never know. Follow-up report ? Can't recall ever seeing one.

 

The report has been amended, "fuel starvation" is now "fuel exhaustion" I think we know how the happens.

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the reports are written largely by the pilots concerned

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Quite surprised to learn that Meeka has a local RA flight school ? having lived not far (350 km) from there in a past life.

 

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Quite surprised to learn that Meeka has a local RA flight school ? having lived not far (350 km) from there in a past life.

 

A Meeka FTF when FTFs are closing down allover WA?? I think they mean 'Geraldton', and even then, only 1 school has survived there.

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