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One way strips [new Backcountry 182 vid]

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Gee, that landing in Shiroles, Costa Rica (6m 30s in) is pretty hairy, with horses all over the strip!!

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He seems to land almost on all three wheels, much faster than a full stall. And therefore not protect his nose wheel at all. (Disclaimer: I have 40 hrs total time.) 

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17 hours ago, APenNameAndThatA said:

He seems to land almost on all three wheels, much faster than a full stall. And therefore not protect his nose wheel at all. (Disclaimer: I have 40 hrs total time.) 

The stall warning is chirping on his approach and touch downs. 182's don't have enough elevator authority to get the nose any higher with full flap. The fire wall on these can be bent by average pilots.

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29 minutes ago, Thruster88 said:

The stall warning is chirping on his approach and touch downs. 182's don't have enough elevator authority to get the nose any higher with full flap. The fire wall on these can be bent by average pilots.

Can't argue with you Thruster regarding 182 elevator authority BUT I think there was only one view of the aircraft on the landing role - elevator neutral or close to it, there did not seem to be any attempt to even reduce load on nose wheel. Bit hard to say from cockpit views but again little back yoke on landings. There is no doubt to his skill but like many GA pilots he seems to use mainly power to control his approach (this also the way I was taught but its really for a nice made strip environment).

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As for getting up there in the first place, Larry likes to use ground effect to good effect:

 

 

 

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Good opportunity to post a couple more PNG pics. Here, it's less the length of strip, but the lack of power to get out of them. Lucky most were steep!

At 8400 amsl, Kegsugl was the highest strip in PNG. Mt Wilhelm,(15,000) is just in LHS of pic but under cloud. A very intimidating strip, with average DA 11,000, and a 7% slope.

 

2nd pic is Wonenara in the Eastern Highlands also. Approx 5200 amsl, but over 10% slope, probably only 700m, and always with crosswinds. It was closed in the 70's after several serious accidents.

PNG -Keglsugl alt 8400 in 1969.jpg PNG - Wonenara EHD closed in 70s due prangs.jpg
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I remember a flight out of Kegsugl in a C206 (as pax) in the early seventies when an unexpected item of cargo was the body of a woman who'd been shot in the abdomen with an arrow.  The local Patrol Officer wanted her remains transported to Kundiawa for a post-mortem.  Barely covered by a laplap, she was unceremoniously squeezed into the cargo area behind the seats.

It was an amazing time to live in PNG. 

 

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Spot the odd one out! 

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On ‎12‎/‎09‎/‎2019 at 9:15 PM, onetrack said:

Gee, that landing in Shiroles, Costa Rica (6m 30s in) is pretty hairy, with horses all over the strip!!

Horses might hurt a bit, but their rellies don't come after you, (as the offending pilot), waving bows & arrows - these days its' probably more like AK-47s!  We always had to watch for them wandering across the strip on takeoff because the parking area was usually a tiny bit of flat ground off to the side, and when you were ready to go - out and off, no line up. Ist thing they would hear was 300HP roaring straight toward them! 

 

The pic of Ompkali is typical. It was about 13% slope and the was no go round from 300 ft on final. Several accidents here and it was closed in the 80s I believe.  The pic of Guwasa shows a citizen wandering across well down - probably make it! The pic of Ambunti, (near sealevel on the Sepik R), shows a mighty big hill at the other end, which meant no go rounds from about the big tree on the nearside of the R. It was also slippery - rainfall about 150 inches. The strip at Efogi was notoriously steep, (17%), with a dogleg halfway and around 4000 amsl. This pic from a different era....a Twin Otter on final at about the decision point for landing. Efogi sits over the valley from Kagi, and next to Brigade Hill - both places of past battles on the Track.

 

enjoy.

PNG-Ompkali in EHD with Porter PNG.jpg PNG   Guwasa - note person about to walk accross!.jpg PNG  Ambunti 2 (2).jpg PNG     Efogi on the Kokoda Track 3900amsl,17%,1400ft (2).jpg
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