JG3 Posted April 28, 2010 Share Posted April 28, 2010 I have found a broken sf282 bracket as part of the nose leg support. See photo. There have been absolutely no hard nose wheel landings, but lots of taxiing on rough strips, 700hrs on the aircraft. There are three layers of metal at this point, so no concern of immediate failure. Conversations on the yahoo Savannah forum indicate that several other aircraft have noted similar breakage. To repair I made up a doubler to bolt to the side of the broken part. I used 2mm (.080) because that is the max thickness that fits against the firewall and inside the lower bolt heads. I used two AN-3 bolts above and two below the break. Increased the width at the narrow point as much as full lock on steering will allow, about double the original width. Much easier than replacing the entire part, and plenty strong. See photo. JG 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I have found a broken sf282 bracket as part of the nose leg support. See photo.There have been absolutely no hard nose wheel landings, but lots of taxiing on rough strips, 700hrs on the aircraft. There are three layers of metal at this point, so no concern of immediate failure. Conversations on the yahoo Savannah forum indicate that several other aircraft have noted similar breakage. To repair I made up a doubler to bolt to the side of the broken part. I used 2mm (.080) because that is the max thickness that fits against the firewall and inside the lower bolt heads. I used two AN-3 bolts above and two below the break. Increased the width at the narrow point as much as full lock on steering will allow, about double the original width. Much easier than replacing the entire part, and plenty strong. See photo. JG For the information of Forumites, this "broken bracket" problem is also discussed on another thread (page 3 onwards) but the solution for the problem is only displayed in this thread. Thanks JG. See: http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/norfolk-island-savannah-s.40762/page-4#post-233741 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Thanks JG, I'll be looking at a Savvy Saturday morning................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 Thanks JG, I'll be looking at a Savvy Saturday morning................................................Maj...[ATTACH=full]18675[/ATTACH] To buy for yourself, Maj? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 No mate I maintain it, and occasionally force myself into the pilots' seat and take it for a fly, (somebodys gotta do it !!) I flew it up from Casino originally when the owner purchased it a few years back................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 I see it as a "benefit" so I hope you pay FBT on those flights I like the stripes: they're quite different but it suits the Savannah fuselage shape really well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne T Mathews Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 You poor bastard, Maj. I feel for you... But you're tuff, Mate. Say YES, and don't let them keep you down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest Maj Millard Posted August 15, 2012 Share Posted August 15, 2012 4206 was one of the first kit-built Savvys completed in this country by Ian Ellis, the Casino-based ICP dealer. It originally had slated wings, but now has the VG leading edge mod as supplied by the factory,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 When I was building mine JG told me about this issue so I got the original aluminium ones and made new ones from stainless steel it was easy to do but you need to work with stainless slowly when cutting and filing as it work hardens it really only took about an hour or so to make the new ones. The stainless ones are on the right in the pic of the originals next to the new ones I made 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 4206 was one of the first kit-built Savvys completed in this country by Ian Ellis, the Casino-based ICP dealer. It originally had slated wings, but now has the VG leading edge mod as supplied by the factory,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Maj... Tom Abel told me that Albie Mangels, the adventure film maker was the first to finish one of the first six kits. His beautiful nipple pink one was also one of those six, just took him a bit longer to finish. An interesting feature of the early kits was the folded rudder trailing edge, no solid rivets and stiffener with the trim tab. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Nipple pink ??.......is that what it is !!!!!..............................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Nipple pink ??.......is that what it is !!!!!..............................................................Maj... OK then, where's the picture of this plane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Tom Abel told me that Albie Mangles, the adventure film maker was the first to finish one of the first six kits. His beautiful nipple pink one was also one of those six, just took him a bit longer to finish.An interesting feature of the early kits was the folded rudder trailing edge, no solid rivets and stiffener with the trim tab. I remember watching a fantastic movie of him and a mate driving through the wilds of Africa and another movie of a world sailing adventure. I always wondered what happened to Albie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 Thats his nipple pink Sav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted August 16, 2012 Share Posted August 16, 2012 I remember watching a fantastic movie of him and a mate driving through the wilds of Africa and another movie of a world sailing adventure. I always wondered what happened to Albie. http://www.albymangels.com/ has a bit about what he does now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wow old Alby has changed a lot also not so gung-ho anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rankamateur Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 Wow old Alby has changed a lot also not so gung-ho anymore I emailed him to see what became of his savannah and see if he would send me a photo to post up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted August 19, 2012 Share Posted August 19, 2012 JG, had a qick look at 4206 Sat morning and could not see any cracks in those brackets. . She has about 550 Hrs TT now and is fitted with Tundra tires all-round......................................Cheers Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballpoint 246niner Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Mine cracked at 160 hrs TT - it has copped some nose drops by students and bottoming out during taxiing but the whole assembly is fairly second rate in design. I have a strength doubler being made as well as replacing the original cracked parts. 26 yrs building the things and you'd reckon they could get it and corrosion issues right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eightyknots Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Mine cracked at 160 hrs TT - it has copped some nose drops by students and bottoming out during taxiing but the whole assembly is fairly second rate in design. I have a strength doubler being made as well as replacing the original cracked parts. 26 yrs building the things and you'd reckon they could get it and corrosion issues right! Which areas of the plane are you experiencing corrosion problems BP246-9r? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I remember watching a fantastic movie of him and a mate driving through the wilds of Africa and another movie of a world sailing adventure. I always wondered what happened to Albie. I always wonder what happened to the bevy of drop dead gorgeous women who seemed to follow him around... WOW! I dig Albie Mengels... his docos remind me of a better time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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