kevinfrost

Hi Phil

Good to hear. Hope you have a good run with the prop. I'd like to hear feed back from someone out there using the new prop

on a 120. Have to get back your way before I hang up my wings. Your flyin was a beauty.

Frosty.

Jetjr - I'm aware of all above and how Steve nearly lost the front of his plane testing the Bolly on the 2.2 engine. Some wood props are not suited for the 2.2 as they're too dense, heavy and don't flex enough to dampen out the pulsing. I would like to think Jabiru have taken all this into consideration with their composite for the 2.2 and I'm aware they've done many hours of testing.

No mater what we stick our bum in we take it for granted the manufacturer have done their homework and the product is safe.

We can only hope this is the case with the above mentioned prop. .....Frosty

Some of you blokes worry me. To get on a forum and make statements about products which you've had no research involvement in and state it with such authority. Jabiru states the prop is not the same composition as Bolly for obvious reasons (pulsing) and they have done their research. The last thing any manufacturer wants is to fight a litigation case relating to a death due to the failure of their product. We must also be careful of conflict of interest information that some people hand out quite freely.....Frosty.

Hi Scotty

If there is room I'd like to be on it as well. Be good to catch up with like minded people an learn something as well.

Frosty

Having worked in production control some years back. Mercedes and Commodore, i can relate to that here in Australia and it apples to most western companies.

Sorry for the late reply Kyle. Re aircraft kit to china.

Spoke to the marketer of the Australian designed kit a/c last night. The deal to manufacture and market the a/c in China is done and dusted. Until they have built the a/c and start marketing they wish not to mention the the a/c, so I will abide by their request.

As bexrbetter indicated, the Chinese are cashed up and are still prepared to fly the marketer and two others with experience on the type over and back, all expenses paid.

I wish both parties the best of luck. I have no doubt that China will a dominant force in automotive and high tech manufacture in the near future. You only have to look where the Japanese were in the mid 50s and China has one hell of a head start compared to the Japan situation.

I'll have to ask the manufacturer if its ok to say. He did tell me that they would be manufacturing them in china. That was about 10 months ago. I guess it's still go. I don't see the reason for secrecy but I'm not in his shoes.

A week before Easter 2012 three Chinese were brought to Kadina on the pretence of looking at an a/c to buy. A friend of mine had built the kit a/c and it was pre arranged for myself to demonstrate the a/c which I did with one of them (David)who spoke little english but was a commercial pilot. He found out I had a Jab 120 and wanted to go up in that. Was wrapped in both. I was soon aware it was a evaluation exercise and they didn't come all the way from china to look at one a/c.

One seemed to be the money man, one was an engineer, went over everything. The other a pilot. Cashed right up.

Offered to pay my way to china.(didn't get to talk return air fares). I declined the offer.

They apparently bought the manufacturing rights to produce the a/c in china. I was told by the one (Hubert) who was the photographer and money man that they owned there own air field and that china was opening up their airways for recreational flying.

After leaving Kadina I was fairly certain the were heading for Temora to get a few more ideas.

That's good news. Are they going to run 95 and 98. After reading some time back the difference in additives between the various companies I hope it's BP

And lets not confuse education and degrees with intelligence and common sense.

I did call the pilot of the mustang "he". "Judy or whoever, I apologise". I was busy listening to the radio chatter and the pilots discussing the overheating problems to take notice of the voice gender.

I spoke to James Town be fore heading that way and was told it was standard procedures (CTAF).

10.30 was shut off for inbound. The show was controlled by by ground on 126.7. The departing aircraft after the show were using standard CTAF procedures although some of the war birds were still communicating with Jamestown control on 126.7

A little communication and consideration would have avoided this situation.

I was third in the line at the time waiting to enter 34. The Mustang stated I think three, at least two times he had to go as he was starting to over heat. He was stationed behind the keys lined up for 34. The early mod Jab first in line at the time, taxis out onto 34 and line up. The Mustang says he has to go and powers on unaware there is an A/C in front of him. Luckily he is made aware there is a aircraft in front of him, he swerves to the right just missing the Jab by inches. The Jab thinks he is hit and rolls of to the left hand side of the strip. The mustang and Kittyhawk taxi back to cool down. From where I was and that was very close it looked like it was a miss. I could be wrong.

The Jametown airshow would be the best country airshow around. Stuf ups like this can only lead to the demise of such events.

Insurance companies won't want cover such events or make the cost prohibitive and let's not forget there's a lot of money tied up here, or we're going to all have binoculars to get a glimps of these beautiful aircraft.

I haven't got the answers but I think three things should have happened in this situation.

(1) The Jab jockey should have known and taken on board the heating problems of the warbirds, wait and let them depart. A couple of minutes at best. Very inconsiderate I thought.

(2) The Mustang could have positioned himself at an angle to 34 so he hade a good view of the strip before rolling.

(3) There should have been a marshal at the runway access point where both lots of traffic were converging.

No exaggeration here. That Jab was so close to becoming confetti and had the Mustang pilot not handled the aircraft the way he did it might have been a different outcome for a few of us in the line up. And that would have pissed me off and spoilt an otherwise excellent airshow. Thank you Jamestown and I hope this incident does not deter the owners of these beautiful aircraft making them available for us tradgics to view.

It's not illegal for RAAus aircraft to conduct a straight in approach, but as Nunans said, aircraft on a straight in must give way to aircraft already in the circuit. Keep the straight in for quiet days, and make your calls!

There were discussions on this subject some time back and a number of members quoted the regs stating we (RAAus) must over fly to field and sight the sock or similar prior to landing. Something to do with third party insurance. Like most of us, having not read completely and memorised our bible I'm assuming the previous posters are correct.

If the A/C was RAAus registered I'm led to believe it is illegal to do straight in approaches. Something to do with insurance. If they were GA registered, different story, but not in this case.

Thanks Terry. Gerry much appreciated......Frosty

Hi Terry

That's what I'm after mate. I'll give you a big kiss if you've got some to pass on. Better still I'll pay you or them.

Frosty

Four of each would get me out of trouble. I'll give Steve a PM Pud and see how I go.....Thanks again.

Thank's Pud......Frosty

No!Some parts are standard stuff, like alum tube (aircraft grade of course!), bolts and skins, cabling etc. Specific parts made from stainless steel and chrome moly are harder to get. Most of these I had specially fabricated when doing my rebuild. There are some 2nd hand parts around but you have to dig deep.

Pud

 

Hi Pud"..I'm after fore and aft nylon or plastic rib ends for the thruster. Any contacts? If not I'll have to make a mould and make my own........thank's Frosty.

Perhaps we should go over to GA, much safer. 232 V tail Beachcraft Bonanzas fell apart in the air killing over 500 people. And the list goes on.

Jabiru isn't trying hard enough.

Good to know they're fine.

It was a group fly away, one of the group from here phoned a friend to let him know it wasn't him in case we had heard about it.

I know no more than that.

Anyone heard of a Jab down on the airfield at Wentworth this afternoon. Heard it was from Murray Bridge.

Welcome aboard Malc. Sorry about the typo on your name. We'll fix that.......Frosty