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Particularly when Bedourie (further) can do it for $2.80. I was also disappointed that Birdsville has lost it's character. Fantastic strips, but security cyclone fence around the whole deal, so no taxiing to the pub. Gotta keep those outback terrorists away!

Update on AVGAS prices from a trip completed July, 2013 (+ indicates landing fee on top): Bedourie 2.80 Birdsville 3.15 Bourke 2.67 Cobar 2.39 + Deniliquin 2.29 Longreach 2.31 + Mangalore 2.14 + Moorabbin 2.11 + Thargomindah 2.40 White Cliffs 2.75 Windorah 2.30 Ron

The $210 is for a bundle of all Pocketfms products. The equivalent of ozrunways is called easyVFR and it's $60pa for Android or iOS, including ERSA FAC. If you don't need a flightplanner/nav system, the data only subscription for a Skyview is $160pa.

Thanks Phil. I don't disagree about asking/paying a fair price. I expected a bigger variation over that range of airports.

This thread hasn't been active for a while. Can anyone provide more recent outback AVGAS prices? I'm interested in Bedourie, Birdsville, Bourke, Broken Hill, Longreach, Tibooburra, and Windorah, but any others in the region, particularly if cheaper than the above, might be helpful. Thx Ron

Hi Patrick. It's nice to chat on a quiet Sunday afternoon. The original post referred to a "nasty situation AND comms failure". For the sake of argument let me put a hypothetical "nasty situation" to you, recognising that it would be highly unusual but possible. Your passenger has totally freaked out and has taken a death grip on the controls in an irrational attempt to get back to the ground. You manage to get them to relax their grip with a promise to put down *immediately*. This scenario is not totally fictional and has been described previously in the Air Safety magazine. You're at least 30 minutes from your home field but on the edge of a CTR and therefore 5 minutes from the safety of a runway, and honestly believe that if you start talking on the radio rather than talking soothingly to the agitated passenger you're going to set them off again. You wouldn't consider 7500 and get down ASAP without a word to ATC? 7500 is after all "unlawful interference" , not specifically "hijacking" and as far as I know not limited to the heavy metal.

Patrick, AIP requires ATC to respond to a 7500 squawk and if there is no reply to treat that as prima facia evidence that an emergency exists. They (you) are required to not necessarily *expect* a radio response. I'm sure you're trained to do lots of things in these circumstances but in the context of the original question (an unspecified "nasty situation") my response is accurate.

7500 - Pilot under duress. They don't expect/trust any radio transmission after that ;)

PocketFMS has an Android App with fully maintained Australian data. Latest version is due for release this weekend.

Unless you specifically want AX25, it's been done (http://www.flarm.com/). Gliders have been using it for years.

Hi Mag, I'm a former Licensed Surveyor in Victoria and specialised in GIS up until about 5 years ago. No experience of aerial surveying though. Ron

Andrew, it's not a scanned chart like OzRunways. The 49 is a one off purchase of detailed base map features (roads, railways, rivers , forest, ...) which don't change much. Without the basemap, the airspace boundaries and airports which you get for the 17.99 are overlaid on a black radar-like backgound. When airspaces/airports are amended every six months you can buy a fresh set for another 17.99. There's no AirspaceAvoid subscription as such, although PocketFMS subscribers get AirspaceAvoid updates included. If you want to see the map detail, you can install a PocketFMS free 30 day trial on your PC (www.pocketfms.com.au). It's the same basemap and airspace/airport data. Ron

AirspaceAvoid for iPhone and Android

Earl, there are 2 ALA's at that location, YCAL and YGUI-Guildford. I'm not sure which, if either, is operational.

PocketFMS runs on it: http://www.pocketfms.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=28

There's a new nav app in the store for iPhone/iPad which uses up to date Aust/NZ airspace boundaries.

From Moorabbin: www.rvac.com.au From Point Cook: www.pointcookaviation.com.au Both near the water ;) Ron

YTLG is no longer in the ERSA list of ICAO codes, which also suggests it's been abandoned. Ron

Bob, Look for My Documents\PocketFMS\mapprint.bmp in Windows Explorer. If it's there, double-click on it. What happens? If the file is there, PocketFMS has done it's thing and the problem is most likely the app associated with BMP. Ron

Bob, It creates a BMP image and opens it in whichever application your Windows system associates with that file type. On my XP system the default is Windows Picture & Fax Viewer, but it could be Paint or any other little application which displays BMP. Maybe you've removed that association for some reason. You can check from Windows Explorer by selecting Tools>Folder Options, then the File Types tab, and scroll down to BMP. Hope that helps. Cheers, Ron

Melb Radar handled a flightplan amendment I called in under FLIGHTWATCH, .. 6 minutes after the initial contact. You have to feel sorry for the poor buggers, they're flat out. Ron

Clive, it is the free Approach data which has not been updated. I don't know about the other. Ron

Ferret, have you got a portable car-nav? PocketFMS is about to release a version of the program that runs on your PC and car-nav's like NavMan. Ron

The Approach Systems Australian data is more than 18 months out of date. R.

Here's one to relax with at the end of a hard day ... unless you tend to think about where you would land if the fan stopped spinning. Ron