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Yes, a very solid hit.

Afraid to say it looks like that to me too.

Yes but if you put 4 pilots together you'll get 5 strongly held views!

This is a constant concern when I'm flying the Jab.

I agree. I've never done it and don't particularly want to, it looks v risky.

That's what I was worried you'd say. I'd hate to be a pilot of one of these, knowing all 16 jumpers are hanging on by their fingernails. And if one comes loose they might dislodge the rest. This is what I thought happened in 2010, but I thought, surely this sport can't be that haphazard.

Hi Bob, Thanks, all good to know. You're right about the media. Years ago I attended the Swiss national 'diving championships and was impressed at how they could put one foot precisely on the target. However I have no desire to leap out of a perfectly good aircraft. I would like to know how everyone is restrained during takeoff. Cheers

Maybe that's what caused this crash? We don't know it to be an engine failure do we? The TPE331 is said to be very reliable. Is this what caused the 2010 Fox Glacier crash? The more I hear about skydiving the more it scares me. There seems to be a different mindset in skydiving, too much left to chance.

It was reported elsewhere that they were at 500 ft. If at 12.500 they would probably dump the cargo, and would have plenty of time to set up a nice landing on the strip, as happened at Cairns in 2009.

Skydiving operations scare me. Do they wear seatbelts? The passenger seats would have been removed to fit 17, which seems a lot for a 208. Well done to the pilot.

OK thanks. Enstone looks good.

I'm visiting the UK later this year (assuming it's still U) and will be at Oxford. I like to take a flight, check out where I am from the air. Can anyone recommend a flight school where I could hire a plane (something like a C152 would be fine) + instructor? Thanks

Well, if he didn't pull the lever and the landing ended badly, say with serious injuries, he'd never forgive himself. I think the only person who can make the decision is him. He certainly didn't pull the lever as his first response: he tried to get to landing fields.

Just when I thought people couldn't get any lower: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-03-31/qld-sea-world-chopper-pilot-ashley-jenkinson-traffic-fine-fraud/102169718

A father of two young kids, a terrible tragedy. Condolences to the family and friends.

Just listened to the 9 News account and loved it. Some gems: (i) pilot landed "nose up to keep the props off the ground" (ii) "pilot headed out to sea to get rid of some fuel" Well done to the pilot for not feathering the props before landing: that has turned out badly for others. I've never flown a Baron but I doubt they have a fuel dump capability. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Good job by the pilot. The reporter noted the back of his shirt was covered in sweat; she got that right.

it's not the coroner's job to have knowledge of flying. As a judge -or equivalent- they rely on expert witnesses. The first thing an expert witness does is state their name and qualifications/expertise. Neither is available in the ATSB report so it's not surprising they got a well-deserved savaging.

I had exactly the same thoughts: I'm glad it wasn't the rear nose wheel. And why wasn't it called a Cessna? While it's a great job by the pilot, I did wonder how much steering input he had that enabled him to steer it onto a grassy patch, especially after losing the nose wheel. maybe I'm mean-spirited. Best of all, no-one's hurt.

Sorry, I'm a bit dim. They said it happened shortly after takeoff. How do you know it's EFATO and stall? Agree this is likely.

All survived it seems, great news, I hope they swiftly recover from any injuries.

I don't want to think about the problems with going to the toilet. Maybe that's why the record still stands.

yes indeed, much tighter on shoulder space than a Jab. Nice planes tho.

I practice engine-out landings all the time in the Jab, and actually it doesn't fly too badly. Not the same as with power, but very controllable. It helps if you have practiced.

My brother's a train driver and a while back he's slowing down into a suburban station and sees a crazy-looking guy teetering on the edge of the platform, so he applies full emergency brakes, and sure enough, the guy jumps. Train stops about 3 inches short of the guy, who leaps up and starts abusing my brother for not killing him!! The other thing that p**ses him off is kids who jump in front of the train and at the last moment roll out of the way. SOP is apply full brakes, pull down the blind, and don't look: there's no way of telling if the train has hit someone. But next thing he sees kids laughing and running off!

Volts?