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Try interchanging the probes between #4 and #6 , and between #3 and #5 , (if lengths allow) and note temps ...... Bob 

 

 

“That would still leave you in almost prime carb ice territory. As facthunter said there are requirements for certification. The chart says serious icing ANY power for the dark blue, lycoming say somthing different.”

 

 

 

My point was in reference to post #39, indicating that in some instances it is possible that the application of carby heat may not degrade engine performance ...... Bob

 

 

in my experience, leaving carb heat on during takeoff in a jab LSA/55 (2200 engine) makes no discernible difference. I know this because I've made this mistake. Admittedly I operate on a fairly long strip that's close to sea level.

“makes no discernible difference” .... that may well be correct Cooperplace, particularly in a cooler part of the country, as you are. The carby heat output will be affected by the OAT and, with that temp at say 8 oC, you may get a 10 oC increase with carby heat selected, taking the incoming air temp. to18 oC, which may still be lower than the OAT further North in Summer/Winter which has no discernible affect on Jabiru engine performance. Many variables here .... Bob.

 

 

Yes Don , the Arri’s are good company, although I do get a little concerned about the young fellow and the Mulgrave River dwellers at times. Pity we couldn’t have hooked up, maybe next year. it’s our turn in a few weeks . Bob

 

 

Turbs,

 

Yep recon you are right, manslaughter charges coming right up, not to mention a division possibly happening within the family, don’t think the witness who stated they saw the pilot grinning while flying low towards the water would be making it up.

 

All good fun to some until it turns to sh!t, you reap what you sow pilot, you live with the consequences of your action buddy and take what is coming to you and yes, give up flying, you are definitely not a pilot in anyway IMO.

 

Harsh from me , yes but an innocent life has been taken from seeming reckless stupidity, even though the pilot didn’t mean it, it is done and you can’t take it back.

 

Multiple witness saw it flying low over and around the water for quite awhile.

 

I feel for all involved in the loss of this young lady.

Alf, I’m sure anybody reading this will agree with your comments. A tragic and needless loss of life. The pilot will undoubtably agonise over the consequences of his actions for the rest of his life, and I’m sure that the investigation team will leave no stone unturned, including the pilots training, authorisation, flight reviews, and whether his alleged risky attitude was well known. Hopefully the flight was being recorded. Some years ago I was involved in reviewing a similar accident with members of the NSW police air wing and others. In this incident, both the pilot and his female passenger were of mature age, and the trike fitted with good quality visual and audio recording.( GoPro from memory). We all watched the unedited video in its entirety. His pre flight briefing was impeccable, ensuring that she was comfortable, belted up securely etc.,and agreed that his preparation and pre flight briefing were not in question. The take off and early part of the flight were uneventful ...... gentle turns, maintaining plenty of clearance over built up areas, checking regularly that his passenger was comfortable, to which she responded enthusiastically. They then made their way to a large body of inland water when, seemingly without warning, the pilot put the trike into series of tight descending turns. He asked her if she “liked it” or similar, to which she replied “No I don’t“. I well recall the distinct sense of fear and urgency in her voice, she was truly frightened, Sadly these were her last words as the aircraft spiralled out of control into the water, all graphically captured on video/audio. The electronic evidence was invaluable for the investigators, to the extent that the police considered that they should be made of mandatory in all aircraft. The change in this pilots demeanour is something I often think about, and about how we, as fellow pilots, should go about changing, what we perceive to be an individuals unsafe behaviour. Make your concerns known to your CFI ,Regional Operations Coordinator or the registered organisation. That will ensure that those concerns are passed on to those responsible and may result in this type of accident never happening again. Doing nothing is not really an option ....... Bob

 

 

I went from bi-vocals to multi-focals and found them to be a bit of a nightmare initially, never really feeling totally comfortable during the landing phase. Perseverence finally won out, and I couldn’t imagine not wearing them now. I have recently ordered a new set of transition (photochromic) lenses to replace the clip-ons which were always getting misplaced. The lenses don’t darken when driving or flying ( high wing anyway ), but are reported to reduce fatigue and eye strain. I have gone for the more popular grey ‘tinting’ opposed to brown. I expect that they also will take time getting used to, but as with most things for persons of my generation, perseverence appears to be the key...... Bob

 

 

Yesterday I flew the coastal route between Loch Sport and McGauran Beach . The East Sale airspace was active at the time and traffic, both ways, limited to 1000’amsl. I transited at 800’ to ensure minimal interference with the frequent large helicopter traffic between the offshore rigs and Longford base, particularly between Paradise Beach and Seaspray. A proper lookout is essential at all times, and another set of eyes desirable. Close attention to the CTAF frequency 129.75 requires being ahead of the aircraft, even moreso than usual with minimal distraction . There is no recommended separation, either vertically or laterally, so most traffic will also be between 700’-1000’. Here are some pics from the journey....... Bob

 

- Tracking West along the beach at 800’

 

- Overflying Loch Sport on the way home, with Lake Victoria (L) and the mostly dry Lake Reeve ® . Further R Bass Strait.

 

- On approach to 04 Bairnsdale (YBNS)

 

 

 

 

 

 

An interesting question is how do you know the electric pump is delivering working properly before you need it?

Those with a fuel flow indicator will notice a short term temporary increase in flow when pump energised..... Bob

 

 

My Jabiru is now ten years old . Flown and serviced by me alone, with over 450 hours on the tach. My advice would be to change oil regularly. I do it at 20 hours or less, and use Aeroshell multi grade 15/50. I would strongly recommend doing a leak down check to establish what’s really going on inside. Replace oil and fuel hoses and spark plugs. Good quality hoses available at little cost from most auto shops. Check the airframe and service bulletins, they are relatively simple but, if not confident, have it done by someone well recommended ...... Bob

 

 

Excellent response, Jaba. I told the survey people that there are better problems for them to be spending time on.

Like finding a viable way to make a phone call via your headset.

G’day OK , I have a set of ANR Zulu’s and, once paired to the headsets, you just operate the phone as normal. Any incoming  calls have a distinctive sound and are accepted as normal . Any traffic on your selected frequency can be heard also. They are about 8 years old, and I dare say the latest version is even better....... Bob 

 

 

Hmm.. Ok... But what if on a flight, the power does not return - maybe there is no power being generated.  Once the battery goes completely dead, so will the engine!  That was all I was thinking.  If you are close enough to the strip, might not be too much of a concern I guess.

Once the engine is started, its continued operation is not dependant on the battery...... Bob  

 

 

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An eyewitness told AFP the plane came down in flames.

 

“The plane was already on fire when it crashed to the ground. The crash caused a big explosion,” Tegegn Dechasa recounted at the site littered with passenger belongings, human remains and aeroplane parts around a massive crater at the point of impact.

 

“The plane was in flames in its rear side shortly before the crash. The plane was swerving erratically before the crash.”

 

 

Not an expert but I agree with previous comments that it glides like a brick and they looked to be many other more suitable areas to land.

 

Probably looked pretty good at the final turn, and you are generally committed by then. Late low level manoeuvres, particularly by low hour pilots not recommended. Have a plan and stick with it. Keep the plane flying for as long as possible, keeping the nose wheel off the ground for as long as possible. I have concerns about the fuel line to the pump flapping around, seemingly unrestrained. Should be proper fuel hose enclosed in a fire proof sleeve ...... Bob 

 

 

His imaginary friend had jack to do with his survival, his skills taught had a lot to do with it as well as the aircraft design.

His running out of fuel is very poor airmanship, thinking I might make it is not a smart way to fly knowing you are eating in to your reserves.

 

Glad he survived it and will no doubt never run out of fuel again.

 

   Yep ,as the old saying goes “on a wing and a prayer”........ Bob  

 

 

Flying Baptist minister Paul White thanks God for plane crash survival

 

Geof Parry7News Perth

 

January 10, 2019 8:50PM

 

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WA NewsRegional WAAviationKimberleyReligion and BeliefDisaster and Emergency

 

A WA bush chaplain is thanking God for his miracle survival after an outback plane crash.

 

The Baptist minister and pilot crash landed in rough country in Queensland. His plane was destroyed but he walked away.

 

Derby pilot Paul White has God on his side. 

 

Which is just as well because when his plane crashed in Queensland on Monday he needed all the help he could get.

 

“I think the Lord used a dozen angels up on me yesterday and I’m just very thankful to be alive,” said Pastor White who has lived and spread the gospel in the Kimberley for much of his life.

 

Earlier this week he was flying across the Queensland outback in his Australian made Jabiru two-seater aircraft.

 

“When the fan stops at the front you know something has gone wrong and that’s when a pilot starts to sweat,” he said.

 

With thousands of hours of flying experience Pastor White knew what he had to do.

 

The ground was heavily wooded and finding somewhere to land was not going to be easy.

 

“I weaved between the trees as much as I could,” he said. “There was a big tree (that) took one wing out. The plane spun around did a catapult over and it stopped.”

 

The crew from a rescue chopper were expecting the worst when they arrived overhead and winched a crewman down to the wreck.

 

But Pastor White, a grandfather to 10, survived with just some cuts and bruises and is recuperating before heading home for a reunion with his wife.

 

The call to her after the crash the hardest moment.

 

“There was one bar on the phone working and I made that horrible call to my wife. That’s the difficult time once you land,” he said.

 

Pastor White plans to return to Derby and continue flying with Kingdom Air, the flying ministry he runs to provide pastoral services to remote Aboriginal communities.

 

“Being a man of faith and loving the Lord and a Baptist minister and full-time chaplain I naturally give all the credit to God I look at that plane and I shouldn’t be alive,” he said.

 

 

   ....... and quite clearly a J 230 ...... Bob 

 

 

“ Jabiru can advise that we have recovered the aircraft from the Mundubbera forest that was involved in Tuesday's accident.

 

We can now confirm that there was insufficient fuel for flight on board.

 

You can see by the photo below how intact the cabin remained around the pilot, which is testimony to the crash worthy design features of the Jabiru.”

 

The pilot walked away with only minor scratches.

 

 

 

     Hey Frank , what about saving some of these chicks for when I get there  ..... Bob

 

  

 

 

Or.. there’s always the scenic coastal route via Kilmore Gap before turning left down the Valley. The Power Plants are usually visible some 50 nm. distant , then onto Cowarr and D353 ( if airspace active ) onto YBNS. All good flat grazing country to YBNS. We can arrange overnight accom in the club rooms if req., then an easy 40 nm.scenic coastal to YORB. with another 50 nm.or so to Mallacoota ( flat and timbered with the beach as an option ) ...... Bob 

 

 

Today I was stuck in the middle of South Australia with a fouled plug. The right mag had been running rough for months, but the drop was not outside limits. Today it nearly shook the engine off its mounts.

i tried running it lean for a few minutes, no go. It’s a Lycoming 0360. I rang a mate who is a LAME and he said do that again, but this time pull in carb heat to shock the plug. I did (a few times) and it worked. Smooth running on either mag. This may be common knowledge but somehow I had missed the briefing, and was looking to spend an unplanned night in a strange town. 

 

I had had a spare plug on board, but no spanner. Found out a plumbing tube spanner will fit, from a hardware store. Fortunately that was plan B and not needed.

 

PAX are happy that the delay was only an hour. So my messages are:

 

know how to clear a fouled plug (I thought I did but didn’t)

 

if you carry a spare plug, also carry a tube spanner to fit.

 

a few years ago I had a flat tyre and that taught me to carry all the tools needed to change one. A spare anything is no use if you can’t change it.

 

Happy New Year.

 

 

 

      Any EGT indication ? ...... Bob 

 

 

    Headline said “aircraft plummeted” ...... further adding to the ‘confusion’ .... Bob ?

 

 

         ............... there, but for the grace of God, go I . Bob 

 

 

It’s all good . Just tap on the thumbnails and they automatically enlarge ..... Bob 

 

 

Apple IPads have tracked the Glonass satellites in addition to the US system (GPS) to improve accuracy for many years now. ... Bob