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  1. Morning All, Does anyone know if an Airport or the decommissioning of a licensed airfield to unlicensed has an influence on the 'City' status of a town? Hope you are all well!
  2. One of the Lismore City councilors has made the following statement in an email: "... There is much empathy with the residents affected by the noise of the touch and go and circuit training and I believe some want the airport closed as aviation is a significant user of fossil fuels." This prompted me to have a look at the statistics and I was able to find some verifiable 2018 figures: Avgas was 0.15% of the total Road/Aviation fuel consumption in Skippiestan. Yes, Turbine Fuel was 22%, which admittedly, is a pretty significant figure... Yet again, when the e
  3. Nice to see: https://aopa.com.au/lismore-aviators-call-on-aopa-australia-for-help-facing-unsustainable-increases-in-airport-fees/ Hope it will have some results! A
  4. I see your point. Unfortunately, us YLIS Aviators were too busy committing aviation until we were made aware of the March 2021 Draft Budget proposal...now it seem that every day we find stuff that has been out in the community for a while, creating this emotional anti-aircraft noise storm... Counter attack by governance seems like a really good strategy into the future! Thank you for putting us wise to it, and I hope this will help others too in future.
  5. That would be Kevin Hogan MP....just checked out what he is at the moment: Minister for Local Government 🙂 I think he will need to be visited once the Covid restrictions in NSW are lifted....
  6. ...about that: From the Aircraft Noise Ombudsman (https://ano.gov.au/reportsstats/statistics/annual_report_2019_2020/AR2019-2020-attachments.asp)
  7. What a complex subject! A possible solution would have been to buy up all the land around it, up to the edge of the noise complaints... In terms of Aircraft noise, I see the biggest difference in having an established noise generator vs a new development. In terms of Lismore, we have substantially less noise than in the 80's and 90's, but the sensitivity to noise has substantially increased, especially by new member of the community who were never exposed to previous levels. All you have to do it look at what happened in the 2017 floods...new business owners in the CBD did not take
  8. In your opinion, do we want a horizontal distance away from the aircraft or directly under the flight path at full noise take-off passing overhead? (That would be worst case scenario) We can always do a ground cruise run at a horizontal distance away from the aircraft (we know which one is the noisiest that frequents the airport).
  9. That is a very interesting document! Is the reduction of noise by distance a known standard?
  10. Diving into the whole aircraft noise winger problem, I found that there is a larger number of articles on the Daily Telegraph about Bruxner Hwy noise.... so you may have a chance....
  11. Evening All, For all of you who will have to deal with Aircraft Noise Complaints in future, the Australian Standard for this is AS2021-2000 (Acoustics - Aircraft Noise Intrusion - Building Sitting and Construction). This will eventually lead you to: https://www.airservicesaustralia.com/industry-info/anefs-and-aneis/ Turns out, this is a rather complex matter! I'll keep posting interesting things when I find them....
  12. And thank you Turboplanner for showing me the way to find info! 👍
  13. I am guessing that the planning portal NSW will have info on what you can submit, 'why you would want to' and how? Just to clarify the hierarchy of the planning levels: RCAP >> LEP>>Zoning>>DA?
  14. I think this was in response to public submission on the upcoming council budget, not the Draft Lismore Regional City Action Plan (RCAP). I did not know this level of planning even exists until turboplanner pointed it out...(Thanks again for your input)...
  15. https://www.planningportal.nsw.gov.au/lismoreRCAP Is that the document you are looking at?
  16. Yep, definitely missed some of this, but the Airport Industrial Estate is already in existence (houses the Westpac Rescue helicopter on the Airport side and is only one building wide strip that should never have been build due to the impact on the progression of flood waters in the are (and there is another long story behind how they screwed that one up!). That area is not really a threat to us (well, from a logical hydrology engineering perspective anyway)...coming to think of it, the airport has already been scarified as a flood causeway...wonder if they are thinking of sinking it further fo
  17. That's awesome! Can you also let me know where you are finding this info, I want to learn how to track it down (pretty positive I will need that skill in future!)
  18. Can you enlighten me what the 'planning Scheme' refers to with reference to the options below? Is it the LEP?
  19. I would love to have your confidence in the process. So far, we have had one noise winger stir up the councilors (green/labor) and they voted to change the landing fee structure to our disadvantage (admitting it was a plot to lower traffic numbers) and pass a motion to review the airport....all without consultation of the stake holder. When the most active flying school on the field then tried to reason with them, he was told that his own figures are wrong, after a closed session workshop.....and we are also getting the 'we are developing an airport master plan'. To me, that is a r
  20. Very good point. The wording of contentious issue documents has to be carefully considered. I am not sure that this was done by the council officer who published it. I will get in touch with the airport co-coordinator and suggest an amendment.
  21. Totally agree: Been flying for more than 30 years and even had noise complaints while flying a paraglider (glider, not motor)....there is always ONE! Problem is that with social media, that ONE now has the power to bully the many....
  22. Does anyone have any figures of what it costs a council to introduce a camera landing fee system and running costs?
  23. Thanks Turboplanner. I thought you may have some secrete squirrel sites 🙂 I found the meeting of the 8th June , but did not find that reference. How did you find that? While browsing through our councils expansive list of documents, I came across this 'Fly-Neighbourly-Guideline' (see attached PDF). Fly-Neighbourly-Guideline.pdf
  24. ..that will be interesting! Can I ask how you tracked down that info so quickly?
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