Low Flyer 1770

I am not going to drag up the regs for you. However have you never done a biennial when you have been required to do a PSAL? If you have not and you are unfortunate enough to do it with me, then I assure you that you will. Google PSAL and you will find it. Happy to help

You can do a landing any time without a PSAL on an outfield ALA but would be very foolish to do so. I was not the pilot but was some miles behind and made the Pan call....our procedures we thought were very safe....an accident on landing seemed a far higher risk due to a surface problem than an engine failure. And I would still assess that as being so.....however, having been involved in this, I am unfortunately far more nervous of flying in single engined aircraft especially at low level even if it is a requirement,

Nice to find someone on here who is not so quick to condemn.....thanks for that......actually the CP only has to be available and in contact, I have had discussion with casa on that point. And yes you are right CASA are fast to condemn even when they have no authority to investigate....and they back off fast if you are given the time to refute their allegations. Investigation is ATSBs role who refuse to divulge anything to CASA.....wonder why!

You are one of those! You have deliberately misconstrued my words. The regulations state that for the purpose of landing or inspection you may descend below 500 feet within 3 miles of an ALA or landing area. Not immediately at 3 nautical miles.

A 0 or negative g pushover is not an aerobatic or even utility manoeuvre.....more to the point it had nothing to do with this engine failure......this engine was almost new D2J straight from Lycoming factory 500 hrs previously. I am utterly disgusted with many of the "members" Ill informed and condemnatory comments from "pilots" who have insufficient knowledge and clearly do not know what they are talking about. I will continue to defend Woody as needs be.

1st landing of the day on a beach that has had the tide go over it requires a PSAL.....otherwise he would have been deemed to have been negligent for landing on a surface that may have had tide induced ruts or timber deposited.

Clearly you have forgotten the requirement to do a PSAL when doing an outfield landing.....such as one where the tide has gone over the beach since you were last there....you will find that then you may descend below 500' within 3 nautical miles of the landing area... then we are taught to do a 500', a 200' and 50' pass as required or any combination there of. Aerobatics? Once again you are demonstrating your ignorance.....should you be brave enough to reply, define an aerobatic manoeuvre.

Really...you haven't seen the video and I have....that aircraft was in cruise descent for over 3 minutes when the engine just quit....I stand by my comments regarding someone like you who just can't wait to stand on a soap box and condemn a fellow pilot who undoubtedly has far more experience than you (Woody has around 3000 beach landings, I have around 15,000)...... as I said you have already demonstrated all the qualifications necessary to join CASA! Take your foot out of your mouth and think twice in future before flapping your tongue.

Consider yourself corrected.

Thanks for the neutral support..Actually I mean that, if you are unaware of all the facts then you are perfectly entitled to comment as you have and I take no umbrage at that...this had nothing to do with a beach landing. Woody was carrying out a PSAL at 200 ft when the engine failed.....he had 150 metres of beach in front of him and water in front after that. Historically high wing aircraft with wheels down going into water have a very poor survival rate.......that is why we refused to do reef flights. He made the hard choice and brought it around and back to land on the sand. There was 53 litres of fuel on board, the engine just cut with no missing at all which indicates a break in fuel line or complete ignition failure, ATSB are investigating both of these options. I was there and was capturing fuel as it drained to prevent it falling all over the occupants in the wreckage and administered CPR to the girl who died for over an hour. I also flew out and brought paramedics back in. I do hope that all those tall poppy arm chair judges I have now seen on this page are ducking for cover and cringing after the faceatious moralistic ill informed judgements they have dared to make. And I would just be willing to bet they are also too gutless to apologise.

you know nothing....you should join CASA....you would fit right in!

Thanks Scott....there are just assholes out there in the aviation community who just can't wait to stick a knife in.

Engine failure

Perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself....I was following WTQ when it had an engine failure....Woody is a bloody good pilot and did his best as a result 3 people survived.