Morgan Sierra safety

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I thought Morgan where no longer selling #24 aircraft after they failed their ATSM certification. A kit aircraft is only as good as the engineer that builds it.
Does anyone know if Garry is able to build and sell the Sierra 200 as a factory build LSA aircraft now? I see that at one stage they took his accreditation to build these as a 24 registered away.
David
 

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Is there any information on the accident involving a sierra aircraft in July 2014 at Barlings Beach where 2 people were killed
 

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Is there any information on the accident involving a sierra aircraft in July 2014 at Barlings Beach where 2 people were killed
Bottom of the page,
https://www.raa.asn.au/members/accident-incident-summaries-2014/

There is information that was provided about cable lock nut requiring an access hole to be cut to inspect tightness of locking nut. I have also been made aware of another factor which I don't want to post here as that has not been published I don't think.
 

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Thanks Camel
I checked out the report-continuing
I am interested because I am attracted by the performance of this aircraft & am in the market.
Your replies are furtive probably because of the public exposure of this site.
Is there a way for us to contact discretely?
 

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Give Garry Morgan a call. He still has his blue 6 cyl Sierra and has a partially completed kit ready for an engine. Don't wait too long though. Garry has given up trying to deal with CASA & RAA so is returning to NZ next year so he can work with co-operative regulators.
 

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So do I Jeff. The LSA and experimental area is like a car lot in Moorooka. Sooo many. The Morgan Sierra and Cougar appear to be great performers and Australian, which is one of my criteria for purchase.
 
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Kg.Wilson - I've had one on his ad for a screen saver and still do also his MKll
Think I'd rather a camit - viking seem like a great choice or a continental for a bit extra HP. Is there a site that shows motor performance
Ie speed to fuel consumption for various motors. I'm aware there's a lot of factors that contribute beside just the motor in a lot of test. Just a question?
 
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So do I Jeff. The LSA and experimental area is like a car lot in Moorooka. Sooo many. The Morgan Sierra and Cougar appear to be great performers and Australian, which is one of my criteria for purchase.
Agree totally Dwilly - It grabbed my attention as soon as a spotted it.
Your always going to get negative people that can't see past some more common imports and really are followers of larger names, but we need all comments positive or negative that's how we have quality and progress.
What ever Gary does, I hope he doesn't stop designing and building. As for his aeronautical qualification, whether he has one or not it's a credit to his ability. Well done
P.s there's a lot of people that have qualifications and don't mind telling you, that's as far is it goes, qualification doesn't give you the gift of forsite and innovation. Having a bit of paper only came into vogue 15 years ago, now you need it every where you go.
 
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I agree 100%. The Morgan Kit includes quality components, all AN bolts & aircraft fittings plus aircraft grade alloy extrusions and sheet. Nothing is pre-drilled bent or formed other than the bell crank and bearings for the elevator spar, the steel sub frame, chromolly front U/C leg, engine mount, & control column box. There are also a number of fibreglass mouldings which have to be filled and finished etc & a full bubble for the canopy that needs careful cutting & shaping to mount on the builder made frame.. I have almost finished my project which has, and still is, one of the most enlightening and satisfying experiences of my life to date. The strength of this airframe surpasses most others in the category and those flying have a performance envelope surpassing most of the plastic fantastics and other factory built aircraft that cost up to twice as much. My build is coming up to 4 years as I began it at Garry's factory in Taree on 24 May 2011 and total time almost 1000 hours over 460 days & 600 build photos so far. Garry is a self taught gifted aeronautical engineer who has been designing and building gliders and aircraft since the early 1980s and a simple phone call can resolve many hours of pondering and head scratching problems during the build process as I can attest. This is all part of the back up service you may find hard to get from imports even when everything is pre-drilled etc

There were certainly some build quality issues on the one that hit the ferris wheel but none attributed to that incident. The fact that both pilot & passenger walked away without a scratch is evident of the strength and impact absorpsion qualities of the aircraft.
I'd like to see your construction pics??
 

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Agree totally Dwilly - It grabbed my attention as soon as a spotted it.
Your always going to get negative people that can't see past some more common imports and really are followers of larger names, but we need all comments positive or negative that's how we have quality and progress.
What ever Gary does, I hope he doesn't stop designing and building. As for his aeronautical qualification, whether he has one or not it's a credit to his ability. Well done
P.s there's a lot of people that have qualifications and don't mind telling you, that's as far is it goes, qualification doesn't give you the gift of forsite and innovation. Having a bit of paper only came into vogue 15 years ago, now you need it every where you go.
I also agree that Gary Morgan has come up with some great aircraft - although they tend to need some mods to really make them fly nicely. We have a Cheetah on the field and after the owner had wrecked two nosewheels and props we moved the mains forward 8 in to take some of the weight off the nose, replaced the main gear with ally leaf spring and reinforced the darn near useless KR2 nosewheel leg. Now it flys beautifully. We also delivered a Sierra from down south earlier this week and it also flys well - just needs a few little mods to improve it still further. With the Rotax 912S and in-flight variable pitch Ivoprop it gets up to nearly 150 kts and will cruise at 110kts at 4000 rpm