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Thst Crikey add is all true. things are getting really bad in Qantas. Maintenance staff being pensioned off, and cuts to flight staff. Nobody feels secure in their employment. Be a good airline if we could get planes that fix themselves and fly themselves. Nev

 

 

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sadly QF are advertising for cabin crew in LA at the moment, the same time they open expression of interest for redundancy to all cabin crew based in Oz. another little tidbit of info now that the minimum wage has now risen $19 a week, the Award wage for a single engine pilot is now BELOW the minimum wage... very sad state of affairs in oz. the only way to get terms and conditions lower is to outsource to contract labour overseas....

 

 

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Agree with you Jake - the pay system is all mixed up. Step son failed high school, lost job after job, but now operates an excavator at $160,000 pa (7days on 7off) and we are trying to recruit an experienced GP for 24/7 work as the only doctor in town in charge of the hospital (short staffed) and all private doctor work in this and the next town for less than that. I know an orthodontist who pedals machinery at a mine and earns more, with less responsibility and stress, than following his profession. World is upside down.

 

 

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I think we need to be realistic... and keep in mind....pretty much, just about, anybody can fly a plane. That is part of the appeal of airline flying as a career is my guess... as long as you aren't a :banana:head and are prepared to pay your $100k.013_thumb_down.gif.ec9b015e1f55d2c21de270e93cbe940b.gif

 

Its not just the Airline Pilots who have gotten shafted... the industry has been pretty much de-unionized in the last 15 years... pressure on wages for 90% of the people working in the industry over the last few years means it is not the most appealing profession for anyone... The problem is you get addicted, the work is never easy and no two days are ever the same.

 

 

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we are paying the price for the longest real estate boom in our history. our wages are now pegged at a level much higher than any other country in asia apart from japan. unfortunately we are going to be stuck with an uncompetitive economy for a long time.

 

 

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Right now the coal price is high and there are lots of mines opening with huge wages. Its fragile, and any number of factors could end the boom and then we will be left with a lot of people whose only skill is driving a big truck round in circles in a highly protected environment. It is back to front - the plant operators are being paid more than the fitters, electricians etc. The spin off for aviation is the number of charters available for remote flyin/flyout mines. It will all come crashing down some day soon.

 

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I think in both cases here, becoming a doctor or a pilot conditions have changed. However, the public still believes that pilots are overpaid and under-worked when 'all' they do is turn on the autopilot, and also it is still believed that doctors are all millionaires and get paid way too much (This is kind of the case with current specialists to a point who are in private practice, but new doctors spend up to 8 or 9 years at uni (minimum of 5 depending on the uni) and do not earn the 'typical' 6 figure doctor salary till 3 or 4 years from uni, so it could be 12 years till they earn that much whereas someone could go do a 3-year business degree and if they played their cards right be earning over 100k in 3 years, half the time of a doctor (Maybe even working for Qantas management...) )

What happened to doing things because you love them?

 

I realise that my current job doesn't pay as much as I could have been earning if I had chosen a different career path -- eg business -- but I love what I do, I am happy at work everyday, and I smile for most of the day. I don't earn enough to buy a house, but I do earn enough to fly whenever I want to.

 

Isn't that what it's all about?

 

 

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The modern god is money. The measure of success in society, is by how costly your car and house is and what suburb you live in. How pathetic is that? The measure of success should be how little rubbish you inflict upon the planet to survive. Need more examples like Fred Hollows.. Nev

 

 

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Right now the coal price is high and there are lots of mines opening with huge wages. Its fragile, and any number of factors could end the boom and then we will be left with a lot of people whose only skill is driving a big truck round in circles in a highly protected environment.

That is Australia's Achilles Heel. The last Liberal Government and the current Labor Government are coasting on a one-product boom, and have taken their eyes off the Agriculture, Industries and Professions this country developed after a number of crashes.

 

What's happening right now is very similar to the late 1800's where Australians left their jobs to mine for gold. Melbourne became one of the richest Cities in the World, if not the richest, with mansions around the eastern end of the City, Toorak, Brighton and along St.Kilda Road, some of them still standing today but a shadow of their former glory from.

 

As a country we've never quite recovered from the crash which ended the gold boom.

 

The Wool Industry was another peak and crash.

 

The Holden car was introduced to Australia, heavily subsidised by the Government because during WW2, when the British came under attack, they not only stopped supplying cars to Australia, but stopped supplying parts as well. The Australian Government decided that never again would the Australian people be caught without their own supply of cars and parts.

 

It was Senator Button who pushed for the abolition of tariffs, driving most of our manufacturing into the ground. In his eyes protection tariffs were poor people's money supporting rich people's business, but the sad reality cut in when we saw clothing manufacture, fruit production, machinery production and car production begin to die.

 

He has created the very situation the Holden example was designed to avoid. If somehow China can't supply, Australians run out of underpants.

 

I think this is all a bit too Macro for our present politicians to take; maybe they're looking at the Mining Situations Vacant Ads.

 

 

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The Holden car was introduced to Australia, heavily subsidised by the Government because during WW2, when the British came under attack, they not only stopped supplying cars to Australia, but stopped supplying parts as well. The Australian Government decided that never again would the Australian people be caught without their own supply of cars and parts.

There was a lot of reforms bought about after WW2 that our veterans fought for that have been stripped away without a wimper by their children... Sadly it is the next generation that will pay the price ultimately.

 

 

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The modern god is money. The measure of success in society, is by how costly your car and house is and what suburb you live in. How pathetic is that? The measure of success should be how little rubbish you inflict upon the planet to survive. Need more examples like Fred Hollows.. Nev

Wise words from a wise man!

 

 

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