Guest pookemon Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Could have been an engine failure - but that would mean a nose down attitude. Should have been plenty high enough if it was 200m from the runway. While ferris wheels are high - they're not THAT high. Very odd. Might have been trying to land on an oval (Engine failure) and just didn't have enough height to clear the ferris wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 ell this incident has alleviated my concerns about ferris wheels and fun rides at f Well this incident has alliviate the fears I that have harboured for years in respect of my kids and others ridding these contraptions at shows they are obviously built strong, strong enough to survive and stay in tact after being struck by a missile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 my only observation is that he was pretty low for 200 mtrs out from the runway I concur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Oops, I'm glad no one was injured. Quite comical ............... An extremely thin line between something like this being comical vs being as tragic as the recent accident at Reno. This is the sort of accident where we can take away a lot of learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teckair Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 An extremely thin line between something like this being comical vs being as tragic as the recent accident at Reno. This is the sort of accident where we can take away a lot of learning. Quite true. One possibility, down on power hoping to clear the Ferris wheel then at the last second could not and too slow to make the required turn to avoid it. Something a bit like that happened to me once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne T Mathews Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I'm wondering if we're going to be revisiting touch and go training? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushpilot Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 It's never helpful if the media is talking about 'ultralights' or 'rec aviation' in this type of context... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Just watched the footage on 7 news. I reckon I saw a cross on the strip in a wide shot they showed. Was the strip closed due to the position of the fair & ferris wheel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spin Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 One angle on 7 News provided a partial answer as to why they claim not to have seen the wheel, it was difficult to see against the trees behind it, but even if it hadn't been there they would have been uncomfortably close to the trees:yikes:. Definitely has a humorous aspect given that no-one was injured, but how lucky can you get?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle Communications Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 According to the register it is a Morgan Sierra 200...I noted the rego number on the news its only a year old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flindersflyer Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 ABC reports it as a missed approach, then nose high climb out. Pilot didn't see the Ferris wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest iPilot Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Just saw it on the news, really good to see all are ok. Just unlucky I suppose! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pookemon Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 How close was it to the runway? Clear of the trees - not by much. Sheesh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KingAir Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Just watched the footage on 7 news. I reckon I saw a cross on the strip in a wide shot they showed. Was the strip closed due to the position of the fair & ferris wheel? I agree Mick - when I seen the shots on 7 news I thought I saw a large White cross adjacent to the airstrip.. got me thinking.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 http://www.nbntv.com.au/index.php/category/latest_news/ Brings back memories from many moons ago, when I took the misses and two kids to Australia's Wonderland and was not keen too go on the Bush-Beast roller coaster ride. The following morning I had a flying lesson out of Bankstown and did my first stalls , plus, was shown what happens if you slow a Warrier, and in stages increase to full-flap, then see what happens if you throw the flap lever to the floor, rather than let it off one stage at at a time. Mark if your still teaching prospective airline pilots and wearing that long scarf, Accubra hat and silly RAF type moustache , I still think your parents were un-married. But I have since washed my undies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I can't help it but the mind boggles as to what would have happened if the BRS had deployed, it may have ended up the first ferris wheel in space! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Pretty hard to miss seeing a ferris wheel, I would imagine it would be visable down the runway prior to take-off...................................................Maj... But Maj he didn't miss it did he in fact it would have filled his whole windscreen at one point:faint:! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick-p Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Watched the video quite amazing actually. Those guys and the 2 kids were extremely lucky and I can't believe how calm cool and collected the pilot was. Anyway a happy ending for the kids, the pilot and passenger which is what really counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winsor68 Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Its gone global. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-15135716 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virago Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Guys, I have two points to make on this occurrence, apart from expressing my relief that no-one was injured: 1/. With reference to the pilot drifting off the runway centre line, I would suggest he carried out the correct procedure of applying power, then moving off to the right of the strip, so as to keep the whole runway in sight during the climb out. This would have placed the ferris wheel in his flight path. This is the procedure I was taught and I would not have done it any differently. 2/. The fact that both wings sheared off at the roots proves the strength off the steel "carry through box" frame which kept the cockpit area intact and no doubt protected the occupants ... and excellent design feature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 You were taught to move to the right of the strip to keep the runway in sight ????....Huh..........I like most students was taught to track the center line !..................................................Maj... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Until we know the actual details this can only be described as a very unfortunate if spectacular accident. I know Paul and he is a very conscientious and safety orientated pilot. He is a family man and was very upset at the fact that there were children involved. I don't think that speculation as to what he should have done or what he did wrong is helpful. I am sure it will take him some time to get though this trauma and sincerely hope that this does not dampen his love of flying. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virago Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 Yes, fly off to the right to keep the whole runway in view to the left ... particularly (but not necessarily) if the go-round was due to traffic on the runway which could climb up under you. I learnt under the GA system back in the early 70's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly_tornado Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I can't understand why he was flying so low at the end of the strip, he must have known there was a carnival on at the end of the strip. Just doesn't make any sense why he was flying where he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floatplane Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 I totally agree, and just checked Old Bar NOTAMS and guess what? There are none! So it's either the local councils fault for not notifying CASA or CASA's fault for not informing pilots "but" without stating the obvious not many pilots read them! Having said that, my guess is he attempted a downwind landing (due to obstacle) and passenger said on TV last night "we were going around after an attempted landing and it wouldn't climb" ---- guys, it's a typical downwind landing mistake and probably created due to that stupid wheel being placed at the end of an ALA. Pilot error? Most probably because end of the day the PIC is totally responsible for making sure a/c and conditions are safe to operate. Unfortunately i hope he doesn't get a letter in the mail from a lawyer! Sad but blo-dy glad "no one was hurt" FP Plane hits Ferris Wheel at end of runway. Does anyone else think that when working out the layout of the Fair you would think to yourself, ferris wheel end of runway bad idea.Anyway hope all are ok...... If you have not seen the pics or news the plane is stuck just near the top of ride as well as people stuck on the ride. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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