Guest pookemon Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-27/man-dies-in-plane-crash-in-country-victoria/4786330?section=vic Assuming the time is right in the article, that would put it after last light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingVizsla Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Further news article citing bad light. Photo shows VH-CKS http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-06-28/bad-light-may-have-contributed-to-fatal-plane-crash/4786906 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ozzie Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Any one know the departure point? Winter time and travelling from lower to higher Lat., maybe misread last light for destination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted June 30, 2013 Share Posted June 30, 2013 Departed from Moorabbin - short trip for an SR22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 " Last light " refers to the light available at that particular location in ideal conditions . That is ,it does not apply when there is cloud or other conditions such as high terrain to the West . Bob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingVizsla Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 Possibly commuting. The aircraft was registered to a company with an office in Camberwell and a residence under the same company in rural Boxwood with what looks like an E-W strip in the paddock. ATSB are doing an investigation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poteroo Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Since the invention of solar powered lighting for small strips, it's something for every country airstrip owner to think about installing - particularly if they regularly push last light. They can be set to come on by a light sensor, and turn off on a timer. Wish they'd been available when we lived out in the bush and operated early/late in the day. Reckon it would be money very well spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingVizsla Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Since the invention of solar powered lighting for small strips, it's something for every country airstrip owner to think about installing - particularly if they regularly push last light. They can be set to come on by a light sensor, and turn off on a timer. Wish they'd been available when we lived out in the bush and operated early/late in the day. Reckon it would be money very well spent. I did the Rolleston Qld airstrip with solar lights about 2007 to CASA requirements = $20,000 for lights alone. If you were not trying to be a Certified airstrip you might be able to do the poor man's version with a couple of Red/Green at each end and one or two pairs of white= about $4,000. They are "set & forget". The batteries are charged each day and they glow all night - can last up to a week with overcast days. Change the batteries every 5 years. There was a whole thread on it a couple of years ago. Sue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Or if you like to live on the edge & push last light for $4,000 you can get a FLIR video camera for your aircraft - see in the dark, through cloud, fog etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultralights Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Or if you like to live on the edge & push last light for $4,000 you can get a FLIR video camera for your aircraft - see in the dark, through cloud, fog etc. sadly just not trees. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Andys@coffs Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 just remember with IR that you only get a picture when there is a thermal difference. There are times when that is not true and the point of focus is outside your ability to illuminate with an IR emitter.... A low light camera that has IR capability may well be better than just IR alone.....but in any event neither is really VFR hey!!! but no less a consideration than fitting a horizon to the instrument stack is for a VFR aircraft and pilot...... Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 just remember with IR that you only get a picture when there is a thermal difference. There are times when that is not true and the point of focus is outside your ability to illuminate with an IR emitter....A low light camera that has IR capability may well be better than just IR alone.....but in any event neither is really VFR hey!!! but no less a consideration than fitting a horizon to the instrument stack is for a VFR aircraft and pilot...... Andy Ooh yeah, looking through night vision goggles doesn't give the pilot depth perception. Many prospective Blackhawk pilots have been failed at that point of their training because of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 sadly just not trees. Au contraire it appeared to show most things quite well in the article I saw, haven't seen it in operation of course. And nothing like the old night vision goggles Daz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza 38 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Au contraire it appeared to show most things quite well in the article I saw, haven't seen it in operation of course. And nothing like the old night vision goggles Daz. -Apologies GG. The FLIR as a example- the Cirrus camera that can be fitted to that aircraft. Appears to be a great situational awareness tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru7252 Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Or if you like to live on the edge & push last light for $4,000 you can get a FLIR video camera for your aircraft - see in the dark, through cloud, fog etc. Since when can any IR camera see through cloud? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spriteah Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Don't push last light. Much smarter approach to flight planning. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Can't find the article now, might have been terrain through fog they were showing. Certainly things like trees & runway showed up well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Can't find the article now, might have been terrain through fog they were showing. Certainly things like trees & runway showed up well. Hit the trees in the dark... And it was bloody dark with no moon. You have to ask why he didn't go to Benalla or Shepparton, both of which have proper PAL lighting and all the stuff needed for a safe arrival. Kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarly Gnu Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 True. BTW I'm definitely not advocating vfr pilots fly about in semi-darkness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alf jessup Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Hit the trees in the dark... And it was bloody dark with no moon. You have to ask why he didn't go to Benalla or Shepparton, both of which have proper PAL lighting and all the stuff needed for a safe arrival.Kaz Kaz, Possible called "get there itis" or she'll be rightis that has claimed another fellow aviator. Sad event for the family and friends. Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyerme Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 This one scared the bajeebers outa me....As my mate and CFI owner and operater of falcon hawk airfield/training facility lives in Boxwood victoria, and is the same age as the pilot killed,lives on same rd ect..ect.... I made the call and was told what happened. such a tradgedy shouldn,t happen and heres a warning to ALL pilots .stop flying low ,,and in the dark?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My ol mates, Jim n'Kay CFI',s next door nieghbour departed Moorabin and flew his Cessna to his private strip at boxwood VIC(Benalla).He was heard flying over at around 6:18pm He proceeded his ussual rutine of over flyng his house to let his family know he was home, He did this twice coming down low(very low) and buzzing his house, his wife and 4 children then came out to greet him on touch down however he then miss calculated his approach striking his trees resulting in the plane hitting the ground verticle killing him instantly, unfortunatly with his family witnessing the event.....RIP and massive condollences. CASA were on the scene..... by the way He was (as in most cases) very exspierienced. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaz3g Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Kaz,Possible called "get there itis" or she'll be rightis that has claimed another fellow aviator. Sad event for the family and friends. Alf Too true, Alf. It was his strip on his farm and I can't help thinking he was relying on a GPS and an inaccurate QNH to find it. Kaz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVOCET Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Can't find the article now, might have been terrain through fog they were showing. Certainly things like trees & runway showed up well. Sky view shows terrain & runways , I saw a Video of a plane in America landing at night between hills right down to the runway and land . Ps not advocating that this should be tried . I wouldn't be game! Cheers Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt walsh Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 On the subject of flying after last light, CASA and RAA will contact you and request explanation as to reasons why you undertooksuch flight. I have just submitted a response and am aware that another Pilot at Ballarat was also requested to do. I am awaiting advice of any disciplinary measures etc. The duration of flight after LL in my case was under 30 mins but my collegue was pinged for a very small time pass LL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVOCET Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 On the subject of flying after last light, CASA and RAA will contact you and request explanation as to reasons why you undertooksuch flight. I have just submitted a response and am aware that another Pilot at Ballarat was also requested to do. I am awaiting advice of any disciplinary measures etc. The duration of flight after LL in my case was under 30 mins but my collegue was pinged for a very small time pass LL. Contact who?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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