SDQDI Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 To, two, too. Whether, weather, wether. Lead. As heavy as lead.(led). I have lead a steer. (Led.) We need someone to lead (leed) us. (English is quiet a stupid language) I often get my grammar wrong but spelling isn't so bad as spell checker gets most of it. I think grammar is the most important as it helps convey the expression and with our funny language idiosyncrasies (spellchecker spelt at but it looks wrong) a pause (comma) can change the whole meaning of a sentence. But at the end of the day I don't really mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guernsey Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I have now red, sorry, read every post and now getting a little tired so I am going for a spell in the garden. Alan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDQDI Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 What on earth are you talking about? He said ...... Oic Which in text language means ........ Oh, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 I like the word ghoti, which is pronounced fish. GH as in rough, O as in women, TI as in position. That's as bad as some of the Irish names. "Tadhg" (pronounced "Tige" - like "Tiger" without the R), "Siobhan" pronounced "she-vawn", "Niamh" pronounced "neev" and "Aoife" pronounced "ee-fa" were a few we met over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Have to say I'm pleased to see so many people with such a passionate interest in spelling and correct usage. Referring to an earlier comment, my old English teacher (to whom I owe a great deal since I grew up in a part of Scotland where our English was not the best) used to say that "got" was not a word. It was/is only necessary to say I have, not I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Have to say I'm pleased to see so many people with such a passionate interest in spelling and correct usage. Referring to an earlier comment, my old English teacher (to whom I owe a great deal since I grew up in a part of Scotland where our English was not the best) used to say that "got" was not a word. It was/is only necessary to say I have, not I've got. Reckon they use it a bit in German church services... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Have to say I'm pleased to see so many people with such a passionate interest in spelling and correct usage. Referring to an earlier comment, my old English teacher (to whom I owe a great deal since I grew up in a part of Scotland where our English was not the best) used to say that "got" was not a word. It was/is only necessary to say I have, not I've got. Will you please get it! I got it yesterday! I have got it! I had got it but my English Teacher made me give it back! You could drop the "got" in the last two but that would remove the element of "getting" it as opposed to just having it in your possession. Was the teacher who taught you English Scottish or did your English Teacher teach you Pictish? Isn't English terrible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Will you please get it! Will you please fetch itI got it yesterday! I received it yesterday, It arrived yesterday! I have got it! I have it! I had got it but my English Teacher made me give it back! I was given it but my teacher made me return it! You could drop the "got" in the last two but that would remove the element of "getting" it as opposed to just having it in your possession. Was the teacher who taught you English Scottish or did your English Teacher teach you Pictish? Isn't English terrible! Teacher was English in Scotland. Love this topic! Interesting aside. Our French teacher was Welsh and could barely understand our accent whilst we likewise had trouble with hers! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted August 13, 2014 Share Posted August 13, 2014 Teacher was English in Scotland. Love this topic! Interesting aside. Our French teacher was Welsh and could barely understand our accent whilst we likewise had trouble with hers! Our French teacher was Scottish. Didn't improve our chances either. rgmwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Teacher was English in Scotland. Love this topic! Interesting aside. Our French teacher was Welsh and could barely understand our accent whilst we likewise had trouble with hers! ...all the more reason for maintaining standard spelling and grammar. Even if we can't understand what they say, at least the written language is the same throughout the planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 "I like pleasure spiked with pain and music is my aeroplane, is my aeroplane." (Red Hot Chillie Peppers) "Give me a ticket for an aeroplane, ain't got time to take a fast train" (Jefferson Airplane) Aeroplane sounds so much better than Airplane as you can see. Even the band with airplane as part of their name figured that one out. Both are American. Now work that out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soleair Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Given that the general direction of both written & spoken English seems to be to contract or abbreviate the language, how has the recent habit of adding superfluous prepositions come about? I find it so annoying to hear (or read) phrases such as " I returned the book back to the library" or "They divided up the food" and so on. The verb 'return' means, in one sense, "to bring back" - so why say 'return back'? To divide something necessarily means to 'split up' - again, the 'up' in the example given earlier is just not needed. Why use more words than you need to? Just return the book or divide the food. I guess this started with the phrase "include me in". But this was said tongue-in-cheek, as the alternative is clearly to "include me out", which is of course self-contradictory. Nurse - where's my medication?! Bruce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Llewellyn Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 When Andre Turcat, the chief test pilot on the French side, gave a speech in America (in the 1960s) about the Concorde, he opened by saying, "ladies and gentlemen, to-night I will be speaking in English, which is neither of our languages . . . 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dafydd Llewellyn Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Given that the general direction of both written & spoken English seems to be to contract or abbreviate the language, how has the recent habit of adding superfluous prepositions come about? I find it so annoying to hear (or read) phrases such as " I returned the book back to the library" or "They divided up the food" and so on. The verb 'return' means, in one sense, "to bring back" - so why say 'return back'? To divide something necessarily means to 'split up' - again, the 'up' in the example given earlier is just not needed. Why use more words than you need to? Just return the book or divide the food.I guess this started with the phrase "include me in". But this was said tongue-in-cheek, as the alternative is clearly to "include me out", which is of course self-contradictory. Nurse - where's my medication?! Bruce "Include me out" is a quotation from, I think, Sam Goldwyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted August 14, 2014 Author Share Posted August 14, 2014 Given that the general direction of both written & spoken English seems to be to contract or abbreviate the language, how has the recent habit of adding superfluous prepositions come about? I find it so annoying to hear (or read) phrases such as " I returned the book back to the library" ...Nurse - where's my medication?! Bruce Bruce you do not suffer alone; I need medication when I hear "most unique" - as if there are degrees of uniqueness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coljones Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Come on folks, where would the English language be without a bit of tautology, some oxymorons, vaulting hyperbole and much circumlocution? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Come on folks, where would the English language be without a bit of tautology, some oxymorons, vaulting hyperbole and much circumlocution? Who are you calling an oxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 'Ough' A Fonetic Fansy W T Goodge The baker man was kneading dough And whistling softly sweet and lough Yet ever and anon he'd cough As though his head was coming ough! 'My word!' said he, but this is rough! This flour is simply awful stough!' He punched and thumped it through and through As all good bakers always dough! 'I'd sooner drive', said he, 'a plough, Than be a baker anyhough!' Thus spake the baker kneading dough; But don't let on I told you sough! 5 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted August 14, 2014 Share Posted August 14, 2014 Stoney, The elephant is a wonderful bird, it flits from bough to bough. It makes its nest in a rhubarb tree and whistles like a cough. Bruce Sounds like deja vu all over again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Reviving this old thread with a couple I found today Let's eat Grandpa. Let's eat, Grandpa. and Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bad English is on the increase. Oh how I detest that type of statement, but it is increasing. Thats better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I for one, don't give a hoot re "spelling", in fact written "modified" can be amusing sometimes, I think more effort is employed to "modify" a word here and there, than actually writing it correctly........( however......."modified spelling" has it's place.......eg, here ) Now the fight begins........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSCBD Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 “Spelling, it seems, is irrelevant to comprehension” Gamrmer d’not mettar mcuh netiehr! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bexrbetter Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Bad English is on the increase. Oh how I detest that type of statement, but it is increasing. Thats better! Autocorrect has a bit to answer for there. Oh and, "That's". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soleair Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Don't get me started on apostrophes. . . (I resisted the temptation to poke the bear by adding one before the final 's'!) Bruce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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