onetrack Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I couldn't imagine what your neck muscles would be like, after a few hours airborne in a prone position! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Another flying wing that didn't ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Make it like when you are backing your car or use mirrors like in an MRI . Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I'm a little surprised that no-one appears to have thought of a design where the pilot is near-prone, lying on their back, nearly horizontal, but with the head and upper body slightly elevated. Sort of like reclining in one of those elevated beds that the bedmakers produce. That would be a lot more comfortable than lying prone on your stomach with your head tilted back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 minute ago, onetrack said: I'm a little surprised that no-one appears to have thought of a design where the pilot is near-prone, lying on their back, nearly horizontal, but with the head and upper body slightly elevated. Sort of like reclining in one of those elevated beds that the bedmakers produce. That would be a lot more comfortable than lying prone on your stomach with your head tilted back. They have mate, they are called gliders and sailplanes! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Similar to the position of a F1 driver. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 O.K., I was actually referring to new and exotic combat design aircraft. The military equipment producers seem to have different priorities. I would hazard a guess the designers of these combat aircraft where the pilot lies prone on his stomach thought that having the pilots head right at the front of the cockpit would provide maximum visibility for the pilot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I think the reason it’s not in combat aircraft but has been/is in gliders is the restrictions on overall ability to reposition your body in the cockpit to adjust sight to areas not within your sight in the normal position. gliders address the limits of reposition with extensive glazing and they towelling hats. fighters in a seated position have the greatest ability to move their bodies around for max vis options and they seem to accept that gforce management takes a second string to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Try this odd looking machine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Focke Wolfe 19 ente or duck in German. A very Teutonic way to name a canard or duck in French. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planedriver Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Looks like a Tail Plane to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 How about this one: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Dunnooo what it is but I like the look of it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Dunnooo what it is but I like the look of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Me too. From another view, another clue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) Kawanishi K-12 Sakura (Cherry Blossom). Planned as a long-range, non-stop, trans-Pacific aircraft, Kawanishi found its performance was inadequate, and the design was abandoned after only two prototypes were built. It reminds me of a 1931 DeSoutter "Sports Coupe", which obviously came later. Perhaps the DeSoutter design was influenced by the Kawanishi. Art Deco influenced aircraft design, as well as buildings and the automotive scene. I still believe the art deco era provided us with some outstanding designs of great beauty. Edited December 16, 2021 by onetrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfly Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 It got a mention in this film about another Kawanishi almost ran. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APenNameAndThatA Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 18/11/21 at 12:38 PM, onetrack said: I'm a little surprised that no-one appears to have thought of a design where the pilot is near-prone, lying on their back, nearly horizontal, but with the head and upper body slightly elevated. Sort of like reclining in one of those elevated beds that the bedmakers produce. That would be a lot more comfortable than lying prone on your stomach with your head tilted back. Prone is lying face down. Supine is lying face up. ( Letting you know makes me look like an idiot, but Im okay with that.) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Thanks for the correction, APenNameAndThatA - I'm quite happy to be corrected when I'm wrong, and letting me know doesn't make you look like an idiot, it just shows that you're a perfectionist. Nothing wrong with being a perfectionist either, except it often grates with people who aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Student Pilot Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Once I thought I was wrong, I was mistaken 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I'm not sure that you are sure. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 This was just sent to me, with the question: Who is responsible for this apalling aircraft? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Who else but the Rooskies, in the 1960's, of course! Known as the Beriev Be-12 Chayka ("Seagull") or "Mail" in military circles, it's an anti-submarine patrol craft. Amazingly, despite being designed in the late 50's/early 60's, it's still flying today. http://www.aeroflight.co.uk/aircraft/types/type-details/beriev-be-12-mail.htm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Brief be12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 There's a profile in the Aircraft Sea Planes section. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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