Phil Perry Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Thanks Kasper. I have no idea what that aircraft is,. the pic was sent to me by one of our flying club members; simply labelled 'Horten Aircraft' The only Horten I'd ever heard of came from Germany in the 1940s. I'll have to ask again when my friend returns from the U.S. Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deskpilot Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 This is indeed a mystery aircraft. Check out this link from USA where the same questions are being asked. http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31225 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I reckon it is photoshopped and doesn’t exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Well looking up through the links to the aero friendrishaven page this IS the same group that was asking me to do plugs and molds for what was at the time called the HO3000 ... it did not have winglets but the plan form and undercarriange look very Ho3000/Nike/Pul 10 so IF it is not just a nice photoshop image and is a real airframe it WOULD be Hortn derived ... the PUL9 and NIKE/PUL10 were the last designed by Walter before he died in 1998 ... but he will be rolling in his grave at the existence of winglets ... as he was adamant that it must be wing only ... and the virtual span effect of winglets is less than actual span so the ONLY aerodynamic reason to have a vertical is to provide directional stability ... which can be achieved through an appropriately matched flight profile and wing twist ... but the image shows control surfaces on the winglets so they are actually vertical controls not pure vortex management winglets ... fun fun fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I found this New Horten flying wing jet to be unveiled at Aero Friedrichshafen April 11 but still think it is a photoshop. The head-on looks beautiful. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Or maybe not. https://www.picoshots.com/hortenaircraft/ And a video: https://www.picoshots.com/p/1994163613523101916_11538608618 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Meanwhile, post #1521? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Can’t find it. Looks like a nice build, but fuselage a bit boxy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 OK. Eight days on #1521. It is a Kieger AK3, alternatively known as the Junkers Profly Junka UL. Manufactured in France by Junkers Profly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Or maybe not. https://www.picoshots.com/hortenaircraft/ And a video: https://www.picoshots.com/p/1994163613523101916_11538608618 It's certainly pretty ... but every photo, and also the video, shows a lot of reflex in the elevons which would be concerning me about CG position if I was the test pilot. Unless they presently have the cockpit heavily static-ballasted I'd hate to think what the consequences of a second pilot/pax would be. All flying wing stuff I've ever come across indicates the stability reflex needs to be built into the airfoil and control surfaces should be neutral in level flight. With the CG where it appears to be at the moment, that one could well come badly unstuck during a landing flare if the speed was allowed to wash off too much. Just a matter of getting the ballasting right, but I wonder why they didn't do that before flying it. The Rego looks fake to me, I can't find any reference to G-EBWB (or G-E8WB) but to TWITTs (flying wing enthusiasts - The Wing Is The Thing), BWB is usually for Blended Wing-Body, so perhaps they're just having a play with it on the quiet before it has an official rego. Very much looking forward to seeing their progress in future, nonetheless. Thanks for posting Phil - and for finding the additional references pmccarthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Fisher Celebrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I found this New Horten flying wing jet to be unveiled at Aero Friedrichshafen April 11 but still think it is a photoshop. The head-on looks beautiful. Look up Don Johnson.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Look up Don Johnson.com Sorry, that should have read danjohnson.com, I absolutely hate autocorrect! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The aircraft in #1534 has a number of variants, or aka's, and The Fisher Celebrity is not one of them. Comparing the two, there are a number of differences. As a matter of interest, look up the Fisher Celebrity aircraft crash video. He bunny hops down the runway till he drifts off the tarmac, runs over a tyre marker, and crashes into the fence and trees at the end of the runway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Don Johnson. Wasn't he in Miami Vice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derekliston Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Don Johnson. Wasn't he in Miami Vice? I believe he was, but that is autocorrect for you! Apparently knows better than me what I mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 The aircraft in #1534 has a number of variants, or aka's, and The Fisher Celebrity is not one of them. Comparing the two, there are a number of differences. As a matter of interest, look up the Fisher Celebrity aircraft crash video. He bunny hops down the runway till he drifts off the tarmac, runs over a tyre marker, and crashes into the fence and trees at the end of the runway. Strange how it just floated along, must have had too many revs at idle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Then its a Hatz CB-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Yes - well one of the variants. It is actually registered as a Kelly CB-1 - reg no N8279. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head in the clouds Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Moyes Dragonfly - for towing hang-gliders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Right HITC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thruster88 Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Blue yonder merlin GT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Yep, it's a Merlin GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djpacro Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Zlin 143 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted March 20, 2019 Share Posted March 20, 2019 Basically, yes, built under licence as the Moravan Z143L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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