onetrack Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Bull, you're still missing the point about lockdowns, and preventing "contagious disease" transmission. If everyone just ignores any mandated lockdowns, feels that the regulations don't apply to them, believe that the virus will have little impact on them, then the scene is set for - not "herd immunity" - but a major escalation in death numbers, a major escalation in people being incapacited by sickness over a long period of time, and a large number of businesses being just as severely impacted, as lockdowns might cause. We are now seeing a major resurgence of the virus in Asia, as many of these Asian nations take a lackadaisical approach to stopping the spread of the virus - which is now seriously impacting their industries with this resurgence, fully 18 mths after the virus initially reared its head. Vietnam originally claimed it had beaten the virus with very few cases - Vietnam is now currently a basket case of 589,000 COVID-19 cases, such that many of their industries have had to shut down. FYI, Toyota has just had to scale back monthly vehicle production from 900,000 new vehicles a month to 500,000 vehicles a month, simply because not only is Toyota being directly affected by increasing COVID-19 cases in Japan - all its supplier countries in the region (Thailand, Vietnam, etc) are suffering from the ravages of a major resurgence of COVID-19. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/viet-nam/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Latest news from Toyota is the the new 300 Series has suffered a shortage of chips for their electronics, that is becoming a pandemic on its own. Ford stopped production in India for the same reasons. However, that information comes from the media…….believe them? I would not trust them to produce a Primary School Newsletter…….. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 16 minutes ago, jackc said: Latest news from Toyota is the the new 300 Series has suffered a shortage of chips for their electronics, that is becoming a pandemic on its own. Ford stopped production in India for the same reasons. However, that information comes from the media…….believe them? I would not trust them to produce a Primary School Newsletter…….. This is from july ,but i think they still have no chips.for fords...Ford is limiting or stopping production at multiple manufacturing facilities through July as a result of the global shortage of semiconductors, a spokesperson for the automaker confirmed. The Chicago Assembly Plant is the first facility to be affected with four weeks of downtime that begin this week.6 July 2021 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 33 minutes ago, onetrack said: Bull, you're still missing the point about lockdowns, and preventing "contagious disease" transmission. If everyone just ignores any mandated lockdowns, feels that the regulations don't apply to them, believe that the virus will have little impact on them, then the scene is set for - not "herd immunity" - but a major escalation in death numbers, a major escalation in people being incapacited by sickness over a long period of time, and a large number of businesses being just as severely impacted, as lockdowns might cause. We are now seeing a major resurgence of the virus in Asia, as many of these Asian nations take a lackadaisical approach to stopping the spread of the virus - which is now seriously impacting their industries with this resurgence, fully 18 mths after the virus initially reared its head. Vietnam originally claimed it had beaten the virus with very few cases - Vietnam is now currently a basket case of 589,000 COVID-19 cases, such that many of their industries have had to shut down. FYI, Toyota has just had to scale back monthly vehicle production from 900,000 new vehicles a month to 500,000 vehicles a month, simply because not only is Toyota being directly affected by increasing COVID-19 cases in Japan - all its supplier countries in the region (Thailand, Vietnam, etc) are suffering from the ravages of a major resurgence of COVID-19. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/viet-nam/ Coronavirus disease (COVID-19) is an infectious disease caused by the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Most people who fall sick with COVID-19 will experience mild to moderate symptoms and recover without special treatment. However, some will become seriously ill and require medical attention. This is the advice from WHO , so it is NOT as deadly as you think ,yes there is a high death rate amongst the elderly and immune deficency but 90% of the deaths had underlying conditions that where killing the person in the first place and their immune system gets overloaded and can not cope. SO PLEASE stop PANICING.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) Florida has had NO lockdowns or closed businesses and its economy is coming back up faster then anywhere else in the states . And yes they have had bad infections rates and deaths but no different to any of the locked down demo states, and now they are getting herd immunity . check out this graph and see that infections and deaths are now declining fast From The New York Times · Last updated: 13 hours ago New cases United States Florida All counties All time Textual representation of the graph showing number of confirmed cases on a daily basis 39 on 15 Mar 32 on 16 Mar 69 on 17 Mar 116 on 18 Mar 108 on 19 Mar 130 on 20 Mar 200 on 21 Mar 236 on 22 Mar 222 on 23 Mar 245 on 24 Mar 504 on 25 Mar 507 on 26 Mar 720 on 27 Mar 840 on 28 Mar 905 on 29 Mar 752 on 30 Mar 1,047 on 31 Mar 1,027 on 1 Apr 1,231 on 2 Apr 1,260 on 3 Apr 1,277 on 4 Apr 805 on 5 Apr 1,279 on 6 Apr 1,118 on 7 Apr 951 on 8 Apr 1,129 on 9 Apr 1,141 on 10 Apr 1,018 on 11 Apr 877 on 12 Apr 1,156 on 13 Apr 609 on 14 Apr 906 on 15 Apr 806 on 16 Apr 1,413 on 17 Apr 739 on 18 Apr 822 on 19 Apr 744 on 20 Apr 811 on 21 Apr 440 on 22 Apr 1,339 on 23 Apr 885 on 24 Apr 306 on 25 Apr 689 on 26 Apr 610 on 27 Apr 708 on 28 Apr 347 on 29 Apr 498 on 30 Apr 1,037 on 1 May 735 on 2 May 615 on 3 May 819 on 4 May 542 on 5 May 563 on 6 May 826 on 7 May 371 on 8 May 802 on 9 May 595 on 10 May 386 on 11 May 941 on 12 May 479 on 13 May 808 on 14 May 928 on 15 May 673 on 16 May 777 on 17 May 854 on 18 May 502 on 19 May 527 on 20 May 1,204 on 21 May 776 on 22 May 676 on 23 May 740 on 24 May 879 on 25 May 509 on 26 May 379 on 27 May 651 on 28 May 1,212 on 29 May 927 on 30 May 739 on 31 May 667 on 1 June 617 on 2 June 1,317 on 3 June 1,419 on 4 June 1,305 on 5 June 1,270 on 6 June 1,180 on 7 June 966 on 8 June 1,096 on 9 June 1,371 on 10 June 1,698 on 11 June 1,902 on 12 June 2,581 on 13 June 2,016 on 14 June 1,758 on 15 June 2,783 on 16 June 2,610 on 17 June 3,207 on 18 June 3,822 on 19 June 4,049 on 20 June 3,494 on 21 June 2,926 on 22 June 3,286 on 23 June 5,511 on 24 June 5,004 on 25 June 8,942 on 26 June 9,585 on 27 June 8,530 on 28 June 5,266 on 29 June 6,093 on 30 June 6,563 on 1 July 10,109 on 2 July 9,488 on 3 July 11,458 on 4 July 10,059 on 5 July 6,336 on 6 July 7,347 on 7 July 9,989 on 8 July 8,935 on 9 July 11,433 on 10 July 10,360 on 11 July 15,300 on 12 July 12,624 on 13 July 9,194 on 14 July 10,181 on 15 July 13,965 on 16 July 11,466 on 17 July 10,328 on 18 July 12,478 on 19 July 10,347 on 20 July 9,440 on 21 July 9,785 on 22 July 10,249 on 23 July 12,444 on 24 July 12,199 on 25 July 9,344 on 26 July 8,892 on 27 July 9,230 on 28 July 9,446 on 29 July 9,956 on 30 July 9,007 on 31 July 9,642 on 1 Aug 7,104 on 2 Aug 4,752 on 3 Aug 5,446 on 4 Aug 5,409 on 5 Aug 7,650 on 6 Aug 7,686 on 7 Aug 8,502 on 8 Aug 6,229 on 9 Aug 4,155 on 10 Aug 5,831 on 11 Aug 8,109 on 12 Aug 6,236 on 13 Aug 6,148 on 14 Aug 6,352 on 15 Aug 3,779 on 16 Aug 2,678 on 17 Aug 3,838 on 18 Aug 4,115 on 19 Aug 4,555 on 20 Aug 4,684 on 21 Aug 4,311 on 22 Aug 2,974 on 23 Aug 2,258 on 24 Aug 2,673 on 25 Aug 3,220 on 26 Aug 3,269 on 27 Aug 3,815 on 28 Aug 3,197 on 29 Aug 2,583 on 30 Aug 1,885 on 31 Aug 7,569 on 1 Sept 2,402 on 2 Sept 3,571 on 3 Sept 3,198 on 4 Sept 3,656 on 5 Sept 2,564 on 6 Sept 1,838 on 7 Sept 1,823 on 8 Sept 2,056 on 9 Sept 2,583 on 10 Sept 3,650 on 11 Sept 3,190 on 12 Sept 2,423 on 13 Sept 1,736 on 14 Sept 3,116 on 15 Sept 2,355 on 16 Sept 3,255 on 17 Sept 3,204 on 18 Sept 3,573 on 19 Sept 2,521 on 20 Sept 1,685 on 21 Sept 2,470 on 22 Sept 2,590 on 23 Sept 2,541 on 24 Sept 2,847 on 25 Sept 2,795 on 26 Sept 1,882 on 27 Sept 738 on 28 Sept 3,266 on 29 Sept 1,948 on 30 Sept 2,628 on 1 Oct 2,660 on 2 Oct 2,787 on 3 Oct 1,868 on 4 Oct 1,415 on 5 Oct 2,251 on 6 Oct 2,582 on 7 Oct 3,306 on 8 Oct 2,908 on 9 Oct 0 on 10 Oct 5,570 on 11 Oct 1,533 on 12 Oct 2,725 on 13 Oct 2,883 on 14 Oct 3,356 on 15 Oct 3,449 on 16 Oct 4,044 on 17 Oct 2,539 on 18 Oct 1,707 on 19 Oct 3,662 on 20 Oct 2,144 on 21 Oct 5,558 on 22 Oct 3,689 on 23 Oct 4,471 on 24 Oct 2,385 on 25 Oct 3,377 on 26 Oct 4,298 on 27 Oct 4,115 on 28 Oct 4,198 on 29 Oct 5,592 on 30 Oct 2,331 on 31 Oct 4,865 on 1 Nov 4,651 on 2 Nov 4,637 on 3 Nov 4,423 on 4 Nov 6,257 on 5 Nov 5,245 on 6 Nov 4,452 on 7 Nov 6,820 on 8 Nov 3,924 on 9 Nov 4,353 on 10 Nov 5,838 on 11 Nov 5,607 on 12 Nov 6,933 on 13 Nov 4,544 on 14 Nov 10,105 on 15 Nov 4,663 on 16 Nov 7,459 on 17 Nov 7,925 on 18 Nov 9,085 on 19 Nov 9,085 on 20 Nov 8,409 on 21 Nov 6,587 on 22 Nov 6,331 on 23 Nov 8,555 on 24 Nov 8,376 on 25 Nov 0 on 26 Nov 17,344 on 27 Nov 6,277 on 28 Nov 7,363 on 29 Nov 6,659 on 30 Nov 8,847 on 1 Dec 9,994 on 2 Dec 10,870 on 3 Dec 10,177 on 4 Dec 10,431 on 5 Dec 8,436 on 6 Dec 7,711 on 7 Dec 7,985 on 8 Dec 9,592 on 9 Dec 11,335 on 10 Dec 11,699 on 11 Dec 10,577 on 12 Dec 8,958 on 13 Dec 8,452 on 14 Dec 9,411 on 15 Dec 11,541 on 16 Dec 13,148 on 17 Dec 13,000 on 18 Dec 11,682 on 19 Dec 8,401 on 20 Dec 11,015 on 21 Dec 10,434 on 22 Dec 11,384 on 23 Dec 13,147 on 24 Dec 0 on 25 Dec 17,042 on 26 Dec 7,391 on 27 Dec 8,198 on 28 Dec 12,075 on 29 Dec 13,871 on 30 Dec 17,192 on 31 Dec 0 on 1 Jan 31,518 on 2 Jan 10,603 on 3 Jan 11,256 on 4 Jan 15,431 on 5 Jan 17,783 on 6 Jan 19,816 on 7 Jan 19,530 on 8 Jan 15,445 on 9 Jan 12,313 on 10 Jan 11,576 on 11 Jan 14,896 on 12 Jan 13,990 on 13 Jan 13,720 on 14 Jan 16,875 on 15 Jan 12,119 on 16 Jan 11,093 on 17 Jan 8,002 on 18 Jan 9,816 on 19 Jan 11,914 on 20 Jan 12,873 on 21 Jan 13,719 on 22 Jan 12,311 on 23 Jan 9,535 on 24 Jan 8,720 on 25 Jan 9,594 on 26 Jan 8,408 on 27 Jan 11,423 on 28 Jan 10,976 on 29 Jan 15,019 on 30 Jan 7,788 on 31 Jan 5,730 on 1 Feb 10,533 on 2 Feb 6,979 on 3 Feb 7,711 on 4 Feb 11,543 on 5 Feb 7,486 on 6 Feb 6,624 on 7 Feb 5,737 on 8 Feb 7,023 on 9 Feb 7,537 on 10 Feb 8,525 on 11 Feb 7,617 on 12 Feb 7,515 on 13 Feb 5,436 on 14 Feb 3,615 on 15 Feb 6,297 on 16 Feb 7,342 on 17 Feb 5,117 on 18 Feb 6,683 on 19 Feb 7,280 on 20 Feb 5,065 on 21 Feb 4,151 on 22 Feb 5,610 on 23 Feb 7,128 on 24 Feb 6,640 on 25 Feb 5,922 on 26 Feb 5,459 on 27 Feb 5,539 on 28 Feb 1,700 on 1 Mar 7,179 on 2 Mar 6,014 on 3 Mar 6,118 on 4 Mar 5,975 on 5 Mar 4,690 on 6 Mar 4,098 on 7 Mar 3,312 on 8 Mar 4,426 on 9 Mar 4,853 on 10 Mar 5,065 on 11 Mar 5,214 on 12 Mar 5,244 on 13 Mar 3,699 on 14 Mar 2,826 on 15 Mar 4,791 on 16 Mar 4,599 on 17 Mar 5,093 on 18 Mar 5,140 on 19 Mar 5,105 on 20 Mar 3,987 on 21 Mar 2,862 on 22 Mar 5,302 on 23 Mar 5,143 on 24 Mar 5,773 on 25 Mar 5,750 on 26 Mar 5,883 on 27 Mar 4,943 on 28 Mar 3,374 on 29 Mar 5,062 on 30 Mar 5,294 on 31 Mar 6,790 on 1 Apr 6,490 on 2 Apr 6,017 on 3 Apr 4,794 on 4 Apr 3,480 on 5 Apr 5,556 on 6 Apr 5,885 on 7 Apr 7,939 on 8 Apr 7,121 on 9 Apr 6,906 on 10 Apr 5,520 on 11 Apr 1,613 on 12 Apr 9,068 on 13 Apr 6,772 on 14 Apr 6,762 on 15 Apr 7,296 on 16 Apr 6,323 on 17 Apr 6,834 on 18 Apr 4,237 on 19 Apr 5,645 on 20 Apr 5,571 on 21 Apr 6,684 on 22 Apr 5,464 on 23 Apr 7,411 on 24 Apr 4,671 on 25 Apr 3,513 on 26 Apr 5,271 on 27 Apr 5,178 on 28 Apr 5,666 on 29 Apr 5,306 on 30 Apr 5,419 on 1 May 3,841 on 2 May 3,075 on 3 May 3,682 on 4 May 4,394 on 5 May 4,504 on 6 May 4,165 on 7 May 3,977 on 8 May 3,231 on 9 May 2,296 on 10 May 3,263 on 11 May 3,184 on 12 May 4,064 on 13 May 3,590 on 14 May 3,319 on 15 May 2,482 on 16 May 1,976 on 17 May 2,805 on 18 May 2,811 on 19 May 2,893 on 20 May 2,371 on 21 May 3,406 on 22 May 2,069 on 23 May 1,606 on 24 May 1,874 on 25 May 2,327 on 26 May 2,338 on 27 May 2,338 on 28 May 0 on 29 May 0 on 30 May 0 on 31 May 5,937 on 1 June 1,234 on 2 June 1,878 on 3 June 0 on 4 June 0 on 5 June 0 on 6 June 4,717 on 7 June 1,184 on 8 June 1,590 on 9 June 1,726 on 10 June 2,237 on 11 June 0 on 12 June 1,898 on 13 June 2,234 on 14 June 991 on 15 June 1,719 on 16 June 1,626 on 17 June 1,627 on 18 June 0 on 19 June 0 on 20 June 3,678 on 21 June 1,679 on 22 June 1,884 on 23 June 1,935 on 24 June 1,872 on 25 June 0 on 26 June 0 on 27 June 0 on 28 June 5,236 on 29 June 2,319 on 30 June 2,432 on 1 July 5,697 on 2 July 0 on 3 July 0 on 4 July 0 on 5 July 0 on 6 July 9,206 on 7 July 3,911 on 8 July 10,630 on 9 July 0 on 10 July 0 on 11 July 0 on 12 July 15,283 on 13 July 6,425 on 14 July 7,011 on 15 July 16,730 on 16 July 0 on 17 July 0 on 18 July 0 on 19 July 24,017 on 20 July 8,988 on 21 July 12,647 on 22 July 27,514 on 23 July 0 on 24 July 0 on 25 July 0 on 26 July 38,321 on 27 July 16,038 on 28 July 17,589 on 29 July 38,776 on 30 July 0 on 31 July 0 on 1 Aug 0 on 2 Aug 50,997 on 3 Aug 16,935 on 4 Aug 20,133 on 5 Aug 46,686 on 6 Aug 0 on 7 Aug 0 on 8 Aug 0 on 9 Aug 56,610 on 10 Aug 24,753 on 11 Aug 20,656 on 12 Aug 49,745 on 13 Aug 179 on 14 Aug 0 on 15 Aug 56,036 on 16 Aug 21,669 on 17 Aug 23,335 on 18 Aug 15,586 on 19 Aug 33,935 on 20 Aug 12,636 on 21 Aug 0 on 22 Aug 42,143 on 23 Aug 21,208 on 24 Aug 26,203 on 25 Aug 21,765 on 26 Aug 27,805 on 27 Aug 20,968 on 28 Aug 0 on 29 Aug 31,164 on 30 Aug 18,608 on 31 Aug 19,048 on 1 Sept 21,723 on 2 Sept 17,691 on 3 Sept 0 on 4 Sept 0 on 5 Sept 0 on 6 Sept 56,082 on 7 Sept 13,774 on 8 Sept 12,386 on 9 Sept 18,007 on 10 Sept 8,995 on 11 Sept 21 Jun 2021 New cases: 3,678 7-day avg: 1,377 010,00020,00030,00040,000 31 May17 Aug3 Nov20 Jan8 Apr25 June11 Sept New cases7-day average . 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turboplanner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 1 hour ago, jackc said: However they are deaths all the same, but from different causes. All right, a similar comparison maybe deaths from the Flu? More die from the Flu than Covid……so far anyway. We'll see when Australia opens up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Florida has never had lockdown or closed shops factories, and never had a mask mandate nor vaccine requirements. Now look at the economy of the state ,,15th largest in the world and as you can see from my graph in my previous post the infection and death rate is declining very very fast with herd immunity.https://www.flchamber.com/floridas-economy-grows-to-15th-largest-in-the-world-up-from-17th/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, turboplanner said: We'll see when Australia opens up. As you and everyone else can see by this graph that a large proportion of the listed covid deaths during 2020/2021 are misslabled as covid and are actually influenza deaths that we get every year. Now any sane person can see that just by looking at the death rates for influenza dropped from 902 to 36?????????> somethings not right!!!!!! Edited September 12, 2021 by bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Against, is the data we get peer reviewed? Are many of the sources credible? The public don’t have a clue, we just take what is published on face value and work it out from there. No other choices…… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackc Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Check this mess out…… https://www.news.com.au/world/coronavirus/australia/sydneysiders-fume-over-packed-beaches-after-heavy-handed-western-suburbs-arrest/news-story/417965a6e31f876b5a5906fb1d7e964a 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 10 minutes ago, bull said: As you and everyone else can see by this graph that a large proportion of the listed covid deaths during 2020/2021 are misslabled as covid and are actually influenza deaths that we get every year. Now any sane person can see that just by looking at the death rates for influenza dropped from 902 to 36?????????> somethings not right!!!!!! So now the Commonwealth Department of Health is cooking the books? I couldn't find the chart I was looking for but it shows all flu deaths for about 40 years, and the big numbers only occur now and again. The 2020 figures are not unusual and last year we were wearing masks for a lot of the year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 6 minutes ago, jackc said: Against, is the data we get peer reviewed? Are many of the sources credible? The public don’t have a clue, we just take what is published on face value and work it out from there. No other choices…… If you are referring to the influenza data above, it's not a thesis, its not modelling, so while "peer review" might seem important it has no bearing whatsoever on a simple set of numbers published by the Commonwealth Department of Health. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) Professor Ian Barr is the Deputy Director of the World Health Organisation Collaborating Centre for Reference and Research on Influenza at the Doherty Institute. He is frank when asked if he ever imagined the current situation; just 435 cases notified to the Australian Influenza Surveillance Report so far this year and no hospital admissions. ‘No. It’s amazing. Never,’ he told newsGP. Even this expert is amaxedd and as you can see ,he really does not trust the results by his words 'never' Edited September 12, 2021 by bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Bull - Florida has a population of 21.4M, just a little less than Australia's population. Floridas policy of "keeping the State open with no lockdowns", has resulted in the deaths of 48,772 Floridans. If that's a good price to pay for "keeping the economy open" - well, all I can say is, that Florida only represents the very worst of the American Capitalist system - where money assumes a greater value than peoples lives. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 26 minutes ago, bull said: Florida has never had lockdown or closed shops factories, and never had a mask mandate nor vaccine requirements. Now look at the economy of the state ,,15th largest in the world and as you can see from my graph in my previous post the infection and death rate is declining very very fast with herd immunity.https://www.flchamber.com/floridas-economy-grows-to-15th-largest-in-the-world-up-from-17th/ Here's the situation in Florida tonight, direct from Johns Hopkins University of Medicine: CASES DEATHS POPULATION Florida 3,452,700 48,772 21.48 million Death trend is the bottom line on the graph Australia 73,603 1,091 25.36 million Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, onetrack said: Bull - Florida has a population of 21.4M, just a little less than Australia's population. Floridas policy of "keeping the State open with no lockdowns", has resulted in the deaths of 48,772 Floridans. If that's a good price to pay for "keeping the economy open" - well, all I can say is, that Florida only represents the very worst of the American Capitalist system - where money assumes a greater value than peoples lives. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/ Might pay you to talk to some floridians about that mate . They have been living and enjoying life rather then hide under the table and hope the boogy man will go away [covid] you can not keep locking the country down because we will quickly bankrupt the country and then life will be more terrible for the people.https://www.google.com/search?q=washinton+covid+death+rate&oq=washinton+covid+death+rate&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i13j0i5i13i30j0i8i13i30l3j0i390l4.9024j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 This is Washinton a democrate strong hold the capitals death rate which besides still being in lockdown with mask mandates and social distancing etc the death rate is now still climbing whilst florida is declining ,,?? can you explain that to me turbo?? Edited September 12, 2021 by bull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 Meantimes, here I am in W.A., State population 2.667M, an economy largely booming, thanks to careful COVID-19 control - with a total virus caseload since March 2020 of 1089, total number of deaths 9, and just 3 currently active cases - all of which came from outside the State, and were detected upon arrival. I know where I'd rather be living if I was given the choice of Florida or W.A. And Mark McGowan, our Premier, has the support of 98% of the electorate. https://covidlive.com.au/wa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, onetrack said: Meantimes, here I am in W.A., State population 2.667M, an economy largely booming, thanks to careful COVID-19 control - with a total virus caseload since March 2020 of 1089, total number of deaths 9, and just 3 currently active cases - all of which came from outside the State, and were detected upon arrival. I know where I'd rather be living if I was given the choice of Florida or W.A. And Mark McGowan, our Premier, has the support of 98% of the electorate. https://covidlive.com.au/wa Yeah but OT i know WA very well as i have driven trucks all over the state and lived in Kunnanara and Broome and perth and esperance and i,ll tell ya mate in WA eastern state people just do not realise how much of lots and lots of no people just bloody bush and cows. lol so social distancing in WA is not a problem because of the lots and lots of nothing.... 0.89 people per kilometer Population Density of Western Australia Western Australia's density is 0.89 people per kilometer, which is ranking 2nd least populated state in Australia after Northern Territory. WA is one of the least densely populated states in the world. i think more then a kilometer per person is pretty good social distancing,,,,,,,lol Edited September 12, 2021 by bull 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, onetrack said: Meantimes, here I am in W.A., State population 2.667M, an economy largely booming, thanks to careful COVID-19 control - with a total virus caseload since March 2020 of 1089, total number of deaths 9, and just 3 currently active cases - all of which came from outside the State, and were detected upon arrival. I know where I'd rather be living if I was given the choice of Florida or W.A. And Mark McGowan, our Premier, has the support of 98% of the electorate. https://covidlive.com.au/wa My new home state is doing alright too https://www.google.com/search?q=Tasmanian+covid+rates&oq=Tasmanian+covid+rates&aqs=chrome..69i57j0i22i30j0i390l2.7216j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bull Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, turboplanner said: So now the Commonwealth Department of Health is cooking the books? I couldn't find the chart I was looking for but it shows all flu deaths for about 40 years, and the big numbers only occur now and again. The 2020 figures are not unusual and last year we were wearing masks for a lot of the year. Covid-19 is in the process of being contained, but viruses will continue to challenge us. A medical doctor friend recently told me she nearly died two years ago from viral pneumonia. It was a reminder that viruses normally kill more Australians every year than Covid-19 has managed to do over the past 12 months. reference:https://www.aspistrategist.org.au/remember-the-seasonal-flu/ Edited September 12, 2021 by bull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turboplanner Posted September 12, 2021 Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, bull said: Yeah but OT i know WA very well as i have driven trucks all over the state and lived in Kunnanara and Broome and perth and esperance and i,ll tell ya mate in WA eastern state people just do not realise how much of lots and lots of no people just bloody bush and cows. lol so social distancing in WA is not a problem because of the lots and lots of nothing.... 0.89 people per kilometer Population Density of Western Australia Western Australia's density is 0.89 people per kilometer, which is ranking 2nd least populated state in Australia after Northern Territory. WA is one of the least densely populated states in the world. i think more then a kilometer per person is pretty good social distancing,,,,,,,lol You are not understanding how Covid spreads People congregate in cities and towns, and that's where the high volume of infections will be. There can be low volume infections wherever anyone travels and gets within infection distance of anyone else - so every corner of the State. It is not an averaging equation, so not related to the area of a State or country. A lot of people have been picking up and using statistics then comparing linear prgressions vs exponential progressions and posting figures which are not relevant to the number of deaths from Covid. Edited September 12, 2021 by turboplanner 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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