steep turns

[RFguy]

saw this , do they always fly steep turns like that ? , or is this Kabul airport specific ???

 

[spenaroo]

military aircraft, they aren't worried about passenger comfort
was just listening to a podcast on the c17, it can pull 2.5G.

[kgwilson]

Yes it isn't a passenger aircraft but 45 deg is not a very steep turn anyway. 60 to 80 deg is a steep turn in my book

[RFguy]

looks about 53deg. 

My steep turns are 60 + deg. although apparently in RAAUS they dont do higher than 45 by the book.

I am sure most instructors teach 60. Essential know and avoid a spiral skills.

[turboplanner]

They have to get in or out of an airfield in a hostile country as quickly as possible to avoid shoulder-fire missiles so are designed for steep decsenting turns and steep climb outs.

[kgwilson]

26 minutes ago, RFguy said:

looks about 53deg. 

 

I guessed but checking with Smart tools app shows it to be 53 deg.👍

[Roundsounds]

A fairly standard military arrival manoeuvre I am told. Hit the airfield fast, roll on bank and pull some G to decrease speed. Minimises exposure to any ground threats. 

[willedoo]

Soviets did the same thing during their Afghan war. The Il-76's would do a steep approach and bank 45+ degrees.

[F10]

On 20/8/2021 at 5:42 AM, Roundsounds said:

A fairly standard military arrival manoeuvre I am told. Hit the airfield fast, roll on bank and pull some G to decrease speed. Minimises exposure to any ground threats. 

Yeah the anti SAM profile of the C160 Transalls, in South West Africa, would be to come in overhead Ondangwa the main airbase there, at 17 000 ft, pop the dive brakes out, roll over into a very steep bank and in one 360 turn, would be on short final to land, quite a wild ride in the cabin!