trike1 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Check out Country Caller paper for report of Jabiru down close to Chinchilla airfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tillmanr Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onetrack Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 A Jabiru crashed after "experiencing problems after takeoff" at Chinchilla airport around 9:45AM today, 26/02/2023. Two people suffered moderate injuries and were transported to hospital, and are reported to be in a stable condition. The aircraft appears to be a write-off. https://countrycaller.com.au/2023/02/26/light-aircraft-crashes-at-western-downs-airport/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KRviator Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Depth of field almost makes it look like a toy plane there. Even more so than usual for a Jabiru... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 @trike1 You have been a member of this forum since 2013. You will have seen numerous accident reports where the poster has had to be told the importance of following the instruction for posting in the Accidents and incidents topic. You MUST include location and date in the subject heading of your thread. I have corrected it for you in this instance. - Moderator. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horsefeathers Posted February 26, 2023 Share Posted February 26, 2023 Warning - Obligatory comment follows Ahhh, it'll buff out 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Notice the bark and stuff on the road on the other side of the truck? Also the port wing has detached and the nose looks moved to port. My opinion is that the plane impacted somewhere left of the picture and began to rotate as it crossed the left side of teh road, still rotating, then the front impacted the roadside bank of the drain. You would need photos from back along that path to confirm Point of Impact and direction of rotation. Doesn't look like it hit a substantial tree. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 (edited) Good result if pax are in stable condition . Cannot see fuel vents so likely is inboard tank variety. Jabs rarely have fuel delivery issues (good design) and shouldnt have vapour issue with pump on, so something else. Wasnt particularly hot at AP at 0930 local (24C) http://www.bom.gov.au/products/IDQ60801/IDQ60801.99402.shtml Edited February 27, 2023 by RFguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Easy to clip a tree. Some of them overhang the road. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440032 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Another flux capacitor failure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 1 hour ago, 440032 said: Another flux capacitor failure? No. In=depth investigation by expert investigators from our very own ATSB have show positively, and with diagrams and complex computer simulations, that the unplanned impact with the Earth, as opposed to a planned impact (otherwise known as greasing it on), was the result of the aircraft's discombobulator discombobulating at a critical flight phase. A Senior Spokesperson for the ATSB hinted that the ATSB's work result will be published for peer review in a coming issue of Amazing Stories. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 These photos have been sent to me, by a mate of the guy who was first on the scene and gave assistance! Franco. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Takes a fair whack to do that to a Jab. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farri Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Had a good chat to the guy who sent me the photos! he gave me a very interesting account of the accident...I was told, one person on board, was thrown through the windscreen and was lying on the ground several mts from the AC. Franco Ps, Waiting to get more factual, information. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBoy1960 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 (edited) Look at all the oil staining on both upper and lower parts of the elevator/HZ stabiliser on the left hand pilots side. Where does the exhaust exit on the Jabiru ? Just on the left or on both sides ? The dust makes it really visible. Lucky to get out of this accident, ejected ? Looks more like vertical damage rather than forward, but thats just an uneducated comment. (which i am good at) Edited February 28, 2023 by FlyBoy1960 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgwilson Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It looks very much like the discombobulator has definitely discombobulated as it is nowhere to be seen. The cabin is still intact which likely contributed to the fact that the occupants suffered only moderate injuries with the impact absorbed by everything else that got smashed up. If one of those on board was thrown through the windscreen either the seatbelt was not fastened firmly and they slipped through it, they were not wearing it, it broke or became detached. It would be useful to find this out in addition to the cause. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 That's the second impact we have discussed recently (Coonabarabran was the other) where the pilot's restraint was not being used as designed. Maybe there's a need for a "Harnesses Save Lives" campaign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabiru7252 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I find it hard to see how one would 'slip through' the seat belt and hard to believe somebody went through the windscreen. But having said that, I find it hard to believe folks think the Earth is flat. 😒 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It's possible an attach point was damaged. Nev 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biggles Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Yes, an interesting one Frank . The surrounds look fairly dry . One would expect with a wing ripped off and damaged fuselage, there may be up to 60 litres or more laying around somewhere….. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFguy Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The Jabiru passenger cell looks intact. As usual, the Jabiru airframe looks after the pax . Jabiru should use this in marketing. Everything breaks off around you but the pax cell seems to hold together. This is a very good result IMO. I would like a four point harness though. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I wonder if the dismantling we often see when Jabirus prang is actually a designed passive safety device like crumple zones in cars. By breaking off wings and rear fuselage, a lot of the pre-impact kinetic energy of the aircraft is dissipated, reducing the amount to be dissipated by the cockpit area. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Koreelah Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 43 minutes ago, old man emu said: I wonder if the dismantling we often see when Jabirus prang is actually a designed passive safety device like crumple zones in cars. By breaking off wings and rear fuselage, a lot of the pre-impact kinetic energy of the aircraft is dissipated, reducing the amount to be dissipated by the cockpit area. I bet it is, OME. The low-tech fibreglass used to build Jabirus may be less sexy than the carbon fibre fantastics, but has lots of advantages. It’s much cheaper to buy/ build, is good at absorbing impacts while protecting the humans inside and is much more easily repaired. When crashed into water, Jabs float. I bet even this one could be patched up if the right moulds and jigs were available. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 I doubt that it would be economical. I'd scrap it and sell off the instruments. I would not bother with the engine - a total strip down/rebuild would be more than buying one off the shelf. I can't see any other parts having much value as replacements. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spacesailor Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 '' I would like a four point harness though. '' Five point is best . If leg/waist belt gives way your arms fold behind you , as shoulder are pulled through the top straps . That fifth part goes down past your crotch holding , Those shoulder straps tighter . ( a little lesson from S E S car smashes ) . spacesailor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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