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If aeronautical engineers are assessing the base design and incremental changes, and there is a test program with a qualified test pilot, what could possibly go wrong?

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For interest, the mass balance system has already been designed for the Lightning. This was a requirement for the German authorities and this modification is standard for Lightning kits shipped to Germany.

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I thought the Lightning was a copy / spin off from a esqual vm1 and they went on from there changing it . The designer of the esqual got killed flight testing one off them which set the company back years until a new own took them on and totally changed how they where built to carbon fibre . I,m not sure of the tare weight of the Lightning but the first of the 912 esqual where 340 kg and the new model have down to 285kg a rocket with 16 to 18 per hour fuel burn at 130knots . That is cheap to run all around then a RV or GA and with the light tare weight doesn,t become so much of a death trap if the engine stops .I,m not sure why you would need to do 200 knots ? isn,t 200 kms fast enough for recreational flying . If you are going to have a low wing aircraft the slowest stall speed aircraft is so much safer .

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Our Lightning just got back from the paint shop.  It will be reassembled, the control runs will be installed and the interior will go in.  It’ll the be taken apart again and shipped to Adelaide to await the installation of the instrument panel and firewall forward.

 

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Just wondering - what do you estimate your fly away (including registration but not insurance) cost is going to be ???

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6 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

Just wondering - what do you estimate your fly away (including registration but not insurance) cost is going to be ???

Kit cost US$36,000

Builder assist (2 weeks) US$8,000

Paint at factory US$11,000

Interior (carpets, side panel covering, seats) US$3,500

 

So total before shipping = US$58,500 = AU$81,000

 

then add (estimated)

 

Packing, Insurance and Shipping $12,000

GST on import $9,000

Instruments $20,000

VH rego - bugger all

Hull Insurance - will we even be able to get it?

200hp Turbine engine - Company provided 

 

so total cost around $122k plus engine.

 

Gulp!!  I’m glad this is a company expense!  This aircraft will be the test airframe for both our 200hp and 120hp Turbines and will also be our company demonstrator in Australia so we want it to be a high quality aircraft.

 

 

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Wow! If it all comes together you will have one hell of a big bang for the buck ,even though you did leave out a CS prop which will add a big chunk.

 

My guess, with conventional engine and CS prop will be north of $200,000,  no idea what a turbine will set you back.

 

Good luck!

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37 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

Wow! If it all comes together you will have one hell of a big bang for the buck ,even though you did leave out a CS prop which will add a big chunk.

 

My guess, with conventional engine and CS prop will be north of $200,000,  no idea what a turbine will set you back.

 

Good luck!

Yes, I forgot the $11,000 Airmaster constant speed prop...

 

Its our own engine so that’s not an issue for us.  The 200hp Turbine will retail for around $70k so someone else doing what we are doing would have around $200k in it, less for us as our engine is at cost.

 

That said, a good used Lightning can be picked up for $70k so our Lightning will be very expensive compared to say the Jab3300 Lightning’s available on the market now.  But it will serve our purposes in being the test and demo airframe for our engines.

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Dave-

I haven't been on the forum for awhile, but I'm glad to see you finally got the bird home.   I did about 6 days of factory assist on my own lightning in October.   Since then I've done a little work on it, but I've largely been sorting other things out. That includes some infrastructure on the local airport workshop I'm renting.   Being an amateur mechanic, I had a lot of tools, including compressor.   But, airplanes are different and I found I needed a few tools....   resin....  fiberglass cloth.... bit parts and stuff not included in the kit.   Now that I'm finally getting traction on the project, it has gotten prematurely cold for the last 2 months (Winter in US) and my shop heat is not great.   Sigh.....  

 

After the build assist, I was able to bring it home on a large rented landscaping trailer, so fortunately I didn't have your HUGE shipping bill or import tax (but I do have 6% sales tax.).   Also, although not as cool or fast as your turbine, I opted for the Titan 340 with fixed pitch prop which is cheaper.    I'm planning to use a Prince propeller -- they are light weight, seem to have good performance, good reported factory support, they are reasonably priced, and I ride my bicycle past the factory every few days in the summer (Maybe I'll just strap it on back of my bike!)   My plan is to get everything fitted including instruments, then take it back to Shelbyville for paint, reassembly, and test flights.   Then fly it back home.   Schedule ???  Who can say at this point.    Hoping for next Fall.   (I know - naive).   

 

Do keep us posted on your project -- much more interesting than mine.  

 

Ted

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Hi Ted,

 

It’s good to hear of your progress.  The 340 with Prince prop should be good.  We ran a Prince P-tip on our Lightning Bug and it was an excellent prop.  Lonnie Prince makes a good product.

 

Our Lightning is still in Shelbyville getting the interior installed.  Hopefully, it will be packed up and shipped later this month but I suspect that Christmas will get in the way and it might end up being shipped during January.

 

We are certainly looking forward to getting it into our workshop here to finish the panel, firewall forward and fiddle bits.  All we need now is our engine 😏

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