pmccarthy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Ok - try this one[GALLERY=media, 3425]Guess the plane by kasper posted Mar 3, 2015 at 2:50 PM[/GALLERY]Hint - Australian Wackett Warbler. That was hard to find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 This one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 This one?[ATTACH=full]34423[/ATTACH] But the video of it crashing and killing the designer is posted around here someplace ... Bonney gull 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmccarthy Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Correct! There is a story on Wikipedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Guess this one ... hint not Australian ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happyflyer Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Guess this one ... hint not Australian ;-)[ATTACH=full]34426[/ATTACH] P.V.7 Grain Kitten. British WW1 Airship Interceptor? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 Designed to fly off the forecastle of a destroyer, but powered by a 35hp engine. Hmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted March 7, 2015 Share Posted March 7, 2015 P.V.7 Grain Kitten. British WW1 Airship Interceptor? Yep. I'll find one without any regn or serial next time ;-) Delightful looking little plane ... and built less than 2 miles from where I flew from in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Perry Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Geez, mate that's easy peasy !. . .anyone can see that it's obviously a Rockwell Commander 114, . . .you can clearly see that the shadow of the tailplaney bit is less dense that the rest of the picture, which of course means that, since the shadow will be a mirror image, then it is further away from the map than the rest of the airframe, and since the 114 has a cruciform set horizontal stabilizer, this means it's halfway up the fin, and therefore slightly further away from the viewer in it's inverted image than the rest of the shadow ! ! ! now come on, none of this namby pamby stuff. . . give us a DIFFICULT ONE ! ! ! Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 So here is the next one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Obviously Australian and in the 1970s. I'm thinking that it was designed and built by a bloke from Melbourne who had an Italian name. He was killed when this thing crashed. There was a thread here on this plane a few years ago. I think his son, who is now an adult was looking to revive it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 Obviously Australian and in the 1970s. I'm thinking that it was designed and built by a bloke from Melbourne who had an Italian name. He was killed when this thing crashed. There was a thread here on this plane a few years ago. I think his son, who is now an adult was looking to revive it. Not my understanding of the planes history ... designer died but not in this aircraft - and given I included a picture of a holden ute from the 70's I'll admit Australian ;-P And you do have the right plane - Melbourne, German born designer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted April 7, 2015 Share Posted April 7, 2015 I'm sure I've seen this aircraft in a museum - may have been Drage Airworld in Wangaratta (now closed). Can't remember its real name but I believe there was a reference to "flying dunny seat"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red750 Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 You are thinking of Charles Ligeti, and the Ligeti Stratus, which was a joined wing design. Google it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 You are thinking of Charles Ligeti, and the Ligeti Stratus, which was a joined wing design. Google it. No, I'm definitely thinking of the ring shaped one. It would have been in the 90's I saw it, I remember stopping in at the Wangaratta museum on a motorbike ride to QLD. Got a photo somewhere but it's the old fashioned film variety and not on my computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted April 8, 2015 Share Posted April 8, 2015 Well at least this one has lasted longer than 10 minutes before it was solved. Charles Litgeti - no - not of German origin - designer of this one was of German origin Yes, The design was referred to as the "flying dunny seat" Yes, it was in Drage Airworld in Wang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Ok so the flying dunny seat is not getting the correct answer ... It's been a week so here is another Australian plane to identify ... plans still available Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Whatever it is, those wheels are definitely not for rough strips. I like the look of that actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yep, very neat - fully flying tailplane with antiservo tab with trim - beats the Sapphire tailplane and even the bungee bias later added. Not for the more robust pilot ... 110kg from empty to MTOW ... and it was designed under the original 115kg empty weight! Had a set of plans for this back in '87 but over the years they got lost in the moves...and I'm now one of the pilots that would both have trouble fitting under the hood and under the MTOW :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Yep, very neat - fully flying tailplane with antiservo tab with trim - beats the Sapphire tailplane and even the bungee bias later added.Not for the more robust pilot ... 110kg from empty to MTOW ... and it was designed under the original 115kg empty weight! Had a set of plans for this back in '87 but over the years they got lost in the moves...and I'm now one of the pilots that would both have trouble fitting under the hood and under the MTOW :-( No problem, scale it to 125% and beef up the structure a little. As long as the wing loading and W&B are the same, a more modern engine would probably drive it fine. (Those tiny wheels need scaling up anyway!!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kasper Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 No problem, scale it to 125% and beef up the structure a little. As long as the wing loading and W&B are the same, a more modern engine would probably drive it fine. (Those tiny wheels need scaling up anyway!!) Oooo don't go saying that ... this one was actually designed by a real live Australian aeronautical engineer and he might get huffy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man emu Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Looking at the size of the rudder, I bet that the tail wags the dog. OME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Can they be too big? I know what it's like when they are not big enough. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty_d Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Looking at the size of the rudder, I bet that the tail wags the dog.OME Better a big surface with small deflection than a little one with big deflection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
microman Posted April 16, 2015 Share Posted April 16, 2015 Looks like a Resurgam to me - as I recall the designer (Gordon Bedson?) was killed testing the Mk3 version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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