rideandfly

(BTW ... what a beautiful looking Vagabond!)

Initially started an aerobatic school to teach basic aerobatics with the Aerobat later learning that many of my customers wanted extreme stall, spin, and upset recovery without aerobatic training. Even changed the name of the company to reflect the safety training given. Worked with many CFI candidates at a local CFI school giving stall/spin training.  

 

Taught how to prevent stalls, spins, and upsets, if that failed how to recover from them, too. 

 

Garfly,

 

Thanks for your kind comments about the Vag. I fly low & slow with the Vag over North Carolina and having plenty of fun with the Vag working on becoming a better tail-wheel pilot during retirement.

 

 

DJP,

 

Great information!

 

One of the extreme turning stalls folks wanted to learn about is the base to final stall/spin scenario.  Always discussed what led up to this situation and how to prevent it, first.

 

Used to do this maneuver in a Cessna Aerobat at altitude. We would bank at 25 degrees with almost full rudder in the direction of turn with up elevator until the stall broke in the direction of the bank, skidding under the bottom break. The airplane rolls quickly in the direction of the bank, sometimes inverted, and pitches down to almost vertical while entering the spin. When this stall happens in the Aerobat, it happens quickly. It used to take at least 500' to 700' of altitude during recovery. Have had students to enter a spin before recovery because correct control inputs were not used after the stall.

 

 

Here's more photos:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's a lot of Aussie pesos for the j230.

That's a well equipped 2009 J230-SP for $76,500 US.

 

 

buy anything?

No, did not buy anything this visit. We were impressed with the Zenith display and folks building parts of their kits with Zenith folks supervising.

 

We plan to visit Seymour Johnson Air Force Base, North Carolina next month, Thunderbirds will be performing. Will post plenty of photos in the military section.

 

https://www.wingsoverwayneairshow.com/

 

 

We attended first day of the Sport Aviation Expo held during January at Sebring, Florida this year. In addition to seeing all the fine airplanes, we like to watch practice sessions on the Sebring race track next to the airport, too.

 

Like always I take too many photos!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

DJP,

 

New member here. Thanks for the excellent spin information.

 

Purchased an Aerobat years ago and received spin/aerobatic training for flying basic aerobatics in the Aerobat.

 

Going through positive G spin/aerobatic training with Bill Kershner in his Cessna Aerobat years ago. After 10 to 12 turns during the spin, engine would stop running due to centrifugal force un-porting fuel pickups in the wing tanks, the propeller would stop windmilling, too. Very quiet! We recovered after 21 turns.  Bill liked to joke saying before re-start, open the window and holler "clear prop"!  The Aerobat would lock into the spin and the Beggs/Mueller spin recovery technique would not work. Bill taught me to always use the NASA recovery technique in the Aerobat.

 

Received a little spin training with Bill Finagin years ago in a S-2C.  We started out with a positive G spins, transitioned with full forward stick/opposite rudder into a negative G spin, transitioned back again to Positive G spin with full back stick/opposite rudder. Did two or three sets of spins like this, it was a blur. Made recoveries in the Positive G spin using the NASA/PARE technique that Kershner taught me.

 

The Pitts is loads of fun to fly!!!!

 

Bill

 

 

Danny,

 

We have not been out of North America yet, but want to visit Australia and New Zealand. Our Son will be visiting Australia later this year!

 

Thanks for the Welcome!

 

 

Deskpilot,

 

Here's a photo of the lap belt, but the Vag was not built with shoulder harness assemblies.  Shoulder harness installation will be a future Vag project.

 

Thanks for the Welcome!

 

 

 

Thruster88,

 

Appreciate the Welcome and great to know Flyerme has a Vag also!

 

 

Hello from North Carolina.

 

Fly a 1948 Piper PA-17 Vagabond with side by side seating, C-85 engine, no electrical system, hand prop to start, and portable radio for communications. Gross weight is 1150 pounds with stall speed of 45MPH. Cruise 85MPH @ 2100RPM.  Keep the Vag on a grass airstrip in North Carolina and having loads of fun getting back to basics with the Vag!

 

We also enjoy riding motorcycles, "rideandfly".

 

  

 

Bill