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5 hours ago, RFguy said:

There's  a a double requirement going on in this thread.

There is Blackhawk's, relatively inexperienced, for 1st plane which is a touring requirement at the low budget end. Budget J160 is a good option.

There is Squiget's, who is more experienced , a is similar requirement but more money to spend.

 

Squiget - what are you looking at paying for that Tecnam  you are looking at  ?

 

Its also virtually identical to what i trained in , have flown other aircraft , savannah , high wing echo, and 230 and 170 jab . No offence to jab guys i didnt seem to settle especially the centre stick, i was the same with one of the savannas it was centre stick,  and i couldnt seem to get my arm to settle. 

Thats more just me too many motorcycle crashes when younger 

5 hours ago, RFguy said:

There's  a a double requirement going on in this thread.

There is Blackhawk's, relatively inexperienced, for 1st plane which is a touring requirement at the low budget end. Budget J160 is a good option.

There is Squiget's, who is more experienced , a is similar requirement but more money to spend.

 

Squiget - what are you looking at paying for that Tecnam  you are looking at  ?

 

Its 80k , including the hangarage it has , for me thats a bonus 

2 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

On this particular aircraft ,not much more than is in the advert (I have a letter from the owner as well).

 

Europa Monowheel in general - I almost bought one recently. After months of truly exhaustive research on the mark, several hours static inspection of the aircraft itself, in my mind  was the owner, I went for a fly - came away very sick (CO poisoning) & disappointed.

 

Europa aircraft have been around for ages. Designed by Ivan Shaw (a Pom) as a trailerable, grass runway, high speed economical cruiser specifically designed for the Rotax 912/914 engines (others have been fitted) and CS propeller, blending glider and light aircraft composite/foam build technology. There was a later larger tricycle factory (certified) development of the airframe using a conventional aircraft engine

All are kit/home built, so scrutiny of build log and research into builder is a must (this one sounds good as won an award and built by LAIM).

A truly ground breaking concept.

Removable wings (needs two competent handlers for safe fast removal/assembly)

Tail dragger with retractable mono wheel & balancing outriggers. Flaps deploy at the same time /action as the wheels. (There are both conventional fixed main gear and nose wheel mods out there)

Specific to type TO/landing management must be learnt. You can down load the very comprehensive POH written by Ivan Shaw

By all accounts can be a handful on the ground (as with many tail wheel aircraft) but once airborne a delight to fly.

The fast cruise comes at the expense of a high stall, only just fitting into RAA specification of 45 knots. 

Fast and economical cruisers (the advertised one cruises at 120+ knots on 80 hp and I believe it)

Those that have them, love them. I know of one pilot who has two (Rotax 912 ULS & 914 powered)

 

This aircraft is the Classic. The later development is the XS. Main differences are lengthened tail wheel for better ground control (this aircraft has the upgrade) different engine cowling and spinner. The aircraft I nearly purchased was a Classic but had all the XS changes done during the build process.

 

There are not large numbers in Au but the group is strong & supportive. There is a Europa Club based in the UK that will answear many of your questions.

 

It seems to me that the CO problem is wide spread. The  problem seems to be when taxying and in most clears as soon as TO achieved. For sensitive types (like me) it may be fixable but most of the pilots I have spoken to, on this topic, just accept them the way they are. 

 

This particular aircraft is very well priced which may allow the purchaser to do a few upgrades eg fit the recommended Airmaster CS prop and/or a new 912ULS (100 hp) engine

I know of a europa in maryborough qld for sale , want to go have a look at it , it looks quite roomy 

21 minutes ago, skippydiesel said:

I have always lusted after an RV 8 BUT having now flown RAA class aircraft for about 11-12 years I would not go back to GA (unless I suddenly had an unforeseen need for more pax/higher pay load) WHY ? you may ask:

 

• Well I like to fly,  up there with the Gods, so the trip time in not so important.
• Over the years the demand for seats on the aircraft I fly has dwindled from having a waiting list (when I flew GA) to a rare passenger. So having  extra capacity is unnecessary.
• The cost of operating a GA aircraft is generally (there are a very few exceptions) much higher than for RAA types
• RAA aircraft are comparatively, to most GA,  quiet (in & out), bettered only by gliders, a feature I have come to like very much.
• RAA aircraft are supposed to have a stall speed max of 45 knots (mine is about 30 knots) this is a very important safety feature that will allow most pilot/pax to survive any controlled forced landing.
• Personally I like the simplicity of a near basic instrument panel - most GA will be far more complex. Sure you can spend the big $$ for a more sophisticated set up but it is in the realms of personal choice.
• Etc

 

Rather than look to GA, I would suggest broadening your search to composite aircraft - to my mind vastly superior aircraft building/construction material to metal.

 

What would you suggest as a low wing composite them around the 60k to 80k? 

Im looking at purchasing my first aircraft soon , im looking at a tecnam sierra, its been regularly used in reasonable condition with full books.

My wife and i looking at using it for visiting her stepson im Makay (well marian) as well as just enjoying the air. Myself , my wife 20kg luggage ( we toured europe last year with just 15kg combined for 6 weeks) and full fuel we still have 10kg spare.

The owner is selling it at the end of the year it will still have around 1,000 hoirs on its engine. He is getting out of flying due to work commitments he is having to move offshore.

He has been letting me fly it so i have got to know the aircraft and enjoy it hence the purcase offer.

I cant wait to be able to enjoy it 

Thankyou flighttracking

Ty eightyknots

Hi im new here and new to flying, can i ask the RG owners with 2 people ( combined weight of 150kg) and full fuel is the aircraft still under its mtow?

Gday Sue ty , i think i might have spoken to you at last years wings and wheels at Maryborough. Ive been meaning to pop up there to say hi hopefully i can get there soon . Cheers neil

Gday ive just found this place, im new to flying and am in the process of getting nav certification, i am lucky to be able to fly my instructors sierra but will hopefully purchase my own aircraft to enjoy the skies in .