Griffon

This one came up in conversation today in the context of forced landings at Jacobs Well and having re-read the thread in its entirety, there seems to be more finger wagging and instructing people on what to think and say, than factual information.

A pity really, these threads have often been a  valuable learning exercise in the past, whether the eventual cause matches the theories advanced or not. Now we have a situation where only a tiny portion of the group benefit from any knowledge gained and the rest have to shrug and carry on as before, thanks to a creeping PC ninnyism.

Much as I wish it were otherwise, I cannot see how Oshkosh can go ahead in the current environment. I've told my travel agent to roll my ticket over to next year, let's hope the airline concerned is in a position to honour it at that stage.

https://www.atsb.gov.au/media/news-items/2020/focus-on-data-and-components/?fbclid=IwAR02TA848dKDwUHrCbKFHJVidudwBA3HxEVB1-XBb6EYkOPuaDOvBA68pe8

More questions than answers at this stage. First amongst these being, what was he doing descending while heading out to sea? Most people climb to just under the step to cross the bay there, which gives you the option of gliding clear other than for a shortish section in the middle.

One other thing, Dan111, the accident happened on Wednesday 22/01 and the relevant radar loop shows no signs of bad weather.

M61A1 said:

I refer you to post #101

I think we're going to have to agree to differ, because I have a sneaking suspicion that you're enjoying riling up the troops more than converting anyone to your viewpoint.

Given that we haven't found new ways to kill ourselves while flying since somewhere around the thirties, I get the impression that while most will say they want to "learn" from the incident. The reality is that its just a macabre fascination, some schadenfreude and a desire to be right.

Everyone puts forward their theory, and when and if the investigation is complete, someone will get to say "I knew it! ... I told you so".

You're welcome to speak for yourself, but most pilots I know tend toward the problem solving, enquiring mind type and are rather keen not to add to the accident statistics. Trying to learn from the misfortunes and mistakes of others is very much part of the training ethos, from airlines on down to recreational pilots. You may not see any value in it, but I and many others I suspect, do.

I suspect that pilots based at the airfield, as was the case here, would be very well aware of the various wires. The entrance is just a little further along the road.