jwatts

This is a possibility. IF you are serious about this ask the makers to provide you with a list of customers and get the facts from them. Flexible propellers can respond to both centrifugal forces and aerodynamic forces, which can twist the prop. Nev

Thanks Nev, I have emailed them now awaiting a reply. I'll post something once I hear some confirmed results.

Jayden

I am told Jabiru have been flight testing a throttle body type injection system, not sure if that was on the 2200 or 3300 but would presume 3300 for testing purposes.

Hey Watto,

Wondering if you heard this from the horses mouth? Nice to have some website updates if it was true...

Cheers,

Congratulations goes to Michel Arseneau for thinking 'outside the box'.

Can't wait on further developments.

Hi Bruce,

Glass Instruments + GPS...........Hmmm.....May as well add autopilot??

I'm in the same boat (or plane!) as you, researching various Instrumentation, GPS and Autopilot options. I comes down to money and personal preference.

Check out this web site, Dynon Avionics - Home they have great products, so I've been informed.

Let us know how you go.

All the best, Jayden

Hi If you get one let me know I drive a J230 and have been looking for a new prop.

Wilco, shortly will be ordering my 430 kit... and looking for an alternative prop. Their website makes their prop sound very impressive.

Hi to all,

I have been researching propellers fitted to the J430. I have come across this web site

[/url]Prince Aircraft Company

I was wondering if any of you have fitted or known anyone to have fitted a P-Tip Propeller from PAC?

Automatic pitch changing? Hmmm...best of both worlds? Could it be too true? Great short field take-off and no loss of airspeed?

Any thoughts?

Cheers, Jayden

P.S. I did post this elsewhere but not sure if in correct forum, sorry!

Hi to all,

I have been researching propellers fitted to the J430. I have come across this web site Prince Aircraft Company

I was wondering if any of you have fitted or known anyone to have fitted a P-Tip Propeller from PAC?

Automatic pitch changing? Hmmm...best of both worlds? Could it be too true? Great short field take-off and no loss of airspeed?

Any thoughts?

Cheers, Jayden

Hey Damo,

Understand what you're reading, find out if you don't.

You're lucky you only have three books, I have seven! (maybe there thinner!!)

Good luck mate and don't overload yourself!

Jayden

Hi Jwatts,$100'000 does sound more realistic for all the extra instruments fir NVFR. The thing you forgot to mention is a safety shute. There would be no way I would be in a Jab at night ! The donk stops enough for a number of reasons as it is - impeccable maintanance will help ......

 

I hope I haven't stood on anyone's toes on this one.

 

fly safe

 

Walter

Nice to hear from your Walter and thanks for your input.

Haven't stood on my toes! Doing an emergency landing at night would be a bit challenging!! haha:laugh:

Gotta to admit the Jab engines are getting better all the time and....have faith!

Jayden

HEON, There are sure a lot of variables associated with all of this. The J430 kit is $70,000 basic, realistically I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out closer to $100,000 as I would like to set up for NVFR.

money, money, money!!!!!!!

Hi Jaden.If you build the kit yourself under the experimental category you will have a maintenance authority for that aircraft. ........................ . Try the SAAA web site (not easy to navigate) or call one of the SAAA tech advisors. You will find them very helpful.

Hope this helps.

 

Greg

Thanks Greg, was only looking at the SAAA website...$180 annual membership (another annual expense!)

Cheers, jayden

VH- Experimental should allow you to work on it. Well if you build it, wouldn't that be classed as working on it?I know a fella that builds RV's and the like, all VH rego, and he works on them, well he built the thing in the first place.

I believe you're right (god damn I hope you're right!). I'll be looking right though the reg's tonight.

I believe the only time you can't service/maintain a VH Experimental is when you buy someone else's completed kit.

Watch this space...:big_grin:

Jayden

jayden,if its VH- reg (and your not a current LAME)...you wont be doing any servicing other than kicking the tyres and topping up the oil......

Hmmmm......maybe i'd better rethink my position (and do much factual research!!)

...don't want to sound picky but, if $2,500 is 1.5% then it is 1.5% of $167k. Sounds like a lot of parts!

Premium based on;

1.5% based on a $70,000 Hull value = $1050

CSL (combined Single Limit) $2m cover = $ 700

GST = $ 175

11% Stamp duty (SA) = $ 211.75

Total = $2136.75

Long story short...I was looking into a $70,000 Cessna (old and many hours), but knew it was going to cost me A LOT more in the long run. I have always wanted to build a kit plane and liked Jabiru's. Insurance bloke I was talking to said as a builder I could insure against parts only (as I could do any repairs) but it would probably be around the $2500 mark.

Regarding VH and LAME's.... I'm still researching this but believe as a builder I can do all servicing (excluding overhauls) as it is classed as 'experimental'. I think SAAA and CASA have something going on regarding SAAA running 'maintenance courses' or something of the sorts. (please don't quote me on this though!) There's heaps more info but how much do you say?

Jayden

Nev, Yes J430 has to be VH registered.

HEON, Loss of income due to time spent building...luckily I've got a VERY understanding Woman!! I've been quoted approx 1.5% of hull value + CSL + Stamp Duty etc etc. All up approx $2500 to insure the aircraft for PARTS ONLY.

...you'd need to allow for an engine overhaul/replacement of $20 per hour...

I guess what I'm really interested in is finding out are there annual rego costs associated with VH aircraft?

What other hidden costs are there?

In the mean time I'll search elsewhere too.

Thanks fella's

Jayden

Well here is a question out there to all you aircraft owners!

I am keen to order a Jabiru J430 Kit and would like to know what associated costs there are involved in owning an aircraft. Assuming I do all my own maintenance, what other costs are involved?

Registration?

CASA Inspections? (once kit is complete)

Anything else?

Please if you can help me out, I'd like more of a realistic figure on what 'my' aircraft will cost me? (A local builder has told me it costs him $200 per week just to own his aircraft - and that is not even flying it!!!)

Many thanks in advance,

Jayden

med and simply need adjustment. They are also purpose built for aircraftAlso they use port injection - 6 injectors, not 2 like Helmut so enables you to overcome intake differences too which is what causes uneven EGT etc with carb.

Jayden

Good work and well done hfrensch. No doubt you have put a lot of effort into this project but are now being rewarded. I am shortly ordering my J430 kit and once completed will want to do alteration too.

Keep up your great work!

Jayden

Welcome back!And in answer to your question, buy a J230 and screw 2 more seats in . . . :hittinghead:

I got back into flying after a ten year break. Flew Warriors and Tobagos but then after 20 odd hours in a Jabiru J160 decided to buy a factory built Jabiru J170. Building your own is okay if you have a great workshop, plenty of tools, time and helpers. Me, I'd rather just pay the money and fly the plane home. Regardless of that, good that you are back into it...

Cheers, Jayden

Yeah thanks Dazza, I'm sure it won't take long at all. I will only have a few nerves when I fly into Parafield.

Jayden

Hi Jayden, welcome to the forums.It often happens, life presents all kinds of hurdles to interfere with serious recreation. But good to see you've recovered, and now planning to accomodate a family in a J430.

 

Regards, Decca.

You're right about the life thing! I have two 5 year olds so must get this plane built quick before they put on too much weight!! (hopefully by then the RV10 will be under construction, hey?)

Cheers, Jayden

Yes, a J230 but with 4 seats, hence my exclusion clause. :big_grin:And of course, you have a PPL (or better) for a VH registered J430. :thumb_up:

 

Just exhibiting my fear of building an aeroplane I'd have to fly in.

 

Not much confidence in my ability to assemble a fault-free aircraft.

 

There are some photographs of a J230 being built at the factory at There and Back

 

Not a J430 but close enough.

 

And a J400 here Lamb Family Site

 

Good luck with it and we'd all love to follow your progress.

I've spent all my life being a mechanic and general engineer so I'm confident in building a J430. An RV10 is my dream, but finances will let me down so a cheaper J430 will have to do!

I'm a low time PPL last flown in '99. Living in Coober Pedy and having family on Kangaroo Island and Melbourne has only encouraged me to get back into flying. ...and I can't justify hiring an expensive aircraft. I have many flying years ahead of me so building one (I have time to do that) is certainly the best option.

I'll keep you posted on when I order my kit!

Regards, Jayden

Buy a J230 ;) (Unless you really need 4 seats . . . )

J430 is a J230, isn't it?? I have my partner and two small kids to think about, so I think J430 will have to be the way...

G'day all,

Have been out of flying for approx 10 yrs, so it's been a long time between drinks!

Very keen to build a Jabiru J430 bird. Any advice will be appreciated!