Paul Cox

The intriguing thing is what his climb angle would have been if he hadn't been 2kg over weight. He only needed about 6 - 8 feet to clear the top bar.

I was "NOT" over weight as I told the ASTB but they would not listen so I used their own figures against them and proved with the flight over I burnt the 2 kg of fuel anyway. The ATSB just didn’t listen.

Do the math yourself and work it out.

They are wrong!

And as I have said all along the plane didn’t falter.

The pilot stuffed up the landing. (Who hasn’t at some point?)

And the reason the pilot drifted to the left was because he was low and that section had none of the pollarded trees and open clear sky albeit overcast and with a silver Ferris wheel that blended into the background and a nose high attitude the plane was headed for open sky.

And that is the hard thing with aviation,,,we all make mistakes ,sometimes it's a real hard ,cruel ,even fatal lesson,,,,others get to sit down and quietly reflect on what went wrong , and learn from it!Even Morgans have suffered not because their aircraft was at fault but in the aftermath it was found to bit a bit of a sh1tbox.

The pilot was posting here , inspite of his stuff up I'd hope he's still flying ,at the end of the day it's just a crash that thankfully everyone got to go home from ,,,,,,if/when I have one I hope I'm as successful !

 

Matty

Still flying albeit a lot wiser now.

Thanks Turbz ...Just a couple of thoughts for us to reconsider in this very unfortunate turn out of events:

I have laboured on many points related to ALAs and what our responsibilities are as pilots operating into them and Turbz (bless his little cotton socks) has laboured on the points of responsibilities and where the bone may point.

 

In reality we know that the pilot's go around was late; but lets take a rational look at this. If his go around had happened anywhere else it would have been observed as one of those "holy sh!t" moments to any observer and he would have climbed away and probably given himself a bit of a fright and a wake-up up call.

 

So what was different about this accident ... well someone had put a bloody Ferris Wheel standing 20 metres high just 34 metres East of the runway centre line and this just happenned to end up right in the Sierra's departure path ... So ...

 

Yes the pilot made a late call judgement and yes the pilot maybe should have been aware the Ferris Wheel was there ... but who in their right mind would put a Ferris Wheel there in the first instance.

 

There is little doubt that any of us with our aviation knowledge would have ever put a Ferris Wheel in that location.

 

If the Ferris wheel was not in that position this thread would not exist, there would have been no accident of this high profile nature and there would have been no investigation.

 

So to Turbz earlier posts ... there will be some joint responsibility / liability here and RAA should not bare the brunt of it.

 

Again I will say the pilot has ended up being a victim here just because he made an error of judgement in a go around that at any other location he would have survived.

 

The subsequent ATSB preliminary report has revealed information that had nothing to do with causal factors and the can of worms has opened on some practices that even a lot of posters had difficulty understanding are not 'Kosher' practices.

 

No one escapes some level of responsibility in what has been 'discovered' including RA Aus, so we need to collectively be problem solvers here, not problem makers, our sector depends on it. We all need to survive this including Paul, Gary Morgan and RA Aus.

 

Lessons have been identified, we need to move forward with the solutions and in all this debacle thankfully no one was hurt.

Perhaps we could get Paul to prang another one for you to re-build quick and cheap:bash: .Sorry guys, just can't help myself.

Alan.

Just guessing here but it may have been how quick Gary could get it back into the air ( it is used for training) rather than cost considerations.Alan.

Sierra 7634 came out of the paint shop late friday and looks great.

The motor was completely replaced with a new 2200 Jab. The old motor is still sitting on the bench.

Should be flying next week.

Garry says the S200 7634 will be ready to fly in about 3 weeks & that the fuselage from the steel frame across the cockpit area to the rear was pretty much undamaged.

I was going to send you some Sierra rebuild pictures but there already here.

Hi David

Yes legally I cant comment on anything that happened at the interview. ATS had me sign a legal document to that end.

Just briefly I have been through everything a 1000 times since the accident and believe a bad landing yes and an aborted landing but everything from the time I aborted was text book and I dont think i did anything wrong from that point. I was in a nose up attitude, as stated in the news interviews straight after the accident and neither myself nor my passenger saw a thing until the bang. From my persective I had nothing but clear skys in front of me and I was out of there.

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Gary Morgan and Tim Morgan his son were there at the time watching the whole thing.

Gary Morgan his wife Chris and Tim Morgan his son stayed the whole time at the accident giving moral support. They have all kept in close contact with me ever since offering what ever moral support they could.

I feel for everyone involved no matter how distant they were to this including sideshow people guests at the show the poor children that were in the cage above. When you hear a child crying just above you for his mother and its because of what I had done and there was nothing I could do but listen to him cry puts a knot in your chest.

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Any suggestions I can give to help from this.

Dont just look when at a strange runway. "Examine" Overfly the runway not just to check the windsock amd runway but "everything" Look hard because in photos you can see the ferris wheel from the runway but in a nose up attitude travelling at speed in a low wing you see nothing but open sky.

If I knew that ferris wheel was there I could have avoided it by a slight adjustment.

Why is it that people feel the need to be judge jury and executioner ALL based on speculation. This incident could have happened to any one of us, let’s see what the outcome is based on the facts. So hopefully we all can take something positive out of it.Foot note to Paul Sorry that this has happend,i have met you when i was doing my training at Taree and know that safety is paramount with you.Please dont let this unfortunate incident stop you continuing your flying

Kind Regards

 

Kevin

Great to hear from you.

Thanks for the comment

Some of the $#*% on here isnt worth reading.

People really have no idea what really happened and what it’s like to survive something like that (and the potential and lives it could have affected)

Then to judge on speculation before the facts are out are just plain nasty.

I sat with the ATS and RAA inspectors today going over every aspect and they examined everything that happened from 3 days prior to the accident up until 5 minutes after the accident. (They were extremely thorough)

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As a footnote the passenger I had with me approached Gary today asking if he could learn to fly in one of Gary’s planes. (I think that says a lot just there)

Pilot in command

Paul Cox