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Posts posted by MD Edwards
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LSA 55 dimensions Length 5.030 J 160 L 5.775
Height 1.975 H 2.300
Width 8.026 W 8.120
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Thanks for those comments and the pdf to look at, very helpful.Hi Mark, I had a look in my POH but it doesn't directly refer to what the wing area is, but I've uploaded a doc you might find useful.With the MTOW of 430kg and my particular aircraft weighing in at 248.3 EW, I have a useable weight of 181.7 (pilot, Pax, baggage and fuel). The wing area of the J160's would be significantly higher as indicated by their higher MTOW. The LSA 55's may not be able to carry much, but the fuel burn is between 12-13L/hr. I think you'll find the J160's burn around 18L/hr.Given the dimensions are bigger on the J 160 it would have the larger wing area and therefore more lift with more t o weight.
The LSA I have been using is very good on fuel, approx. the 12-13 you quoted.
Given the MTOW is higher on the J160 they should carry two adults easier, I have had to watch the fuel amount on board when taking another fully grown adult as I term it.
I keep looking at the adverts for the J 160's as they are becoming more affordable with some low hour ones coming available at times.
Thanks again.
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G'day, I am looking for some feedback as to the wing area of the LSA 55 Jabiru? I cannot find the figures, websites only show wing area of the J160 C and D models being 86.6 sq ft. I understand the J 160 models are vastly improved on the LSA model which I have done some hours in.
I have not flown a J 160 model to date but understand they carry two people with more ease and generally easier to fly.
Looking forward to your comments.
Cheers,
Mark
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Thanks 80 kt, where is your location?The local flying club here has two Tecnam Sierra P2002 aircraft. They seem to be really happy with them. -
A very tidy looking aircraft indeed.[ATTACH=full]51183[/ATTACH]MarkIn my biased opinion the P2002 just looks so much sleeker and refined than the high wings
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Yeah, I rang up about that one and the bloke said it sold very quickly, I got the name of the new owner and he lives about 1 1/4 hours flying time to the north of us so it's interesting how things work out. Would have been a very good purchase. I'll wait to see what comes onto the market.Was a ripper JF previously VH rego to RAA for sale in the Recreational Aviation Members market a couple of weeks back but only lasted 3 days before it was goneHad full GA panel and 800hrs TT for 70KThey never last long once they become up for sale
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I agree Alf, a very good looking aircraft that Tecnam have made there, I had a fly in a P 92 earlier in the year but I am still more impressed with the P2002 model. One day anyway, I'll keep dreaming at this point in timeHi MarkI cannot fault the Sierra in any way shape or formComfortable, economical, brilliant flying qualities, docile, responsive and so easy to land and absolutely no bad quirks about it plus it is IMO the best looking aircraft out there in the light sport range
Mine is not a JF model
Cheers
Alf
Mark
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Alf, can you share your thoughts on the P2002 model, positives and negatives. Is yours a JF model? I'm looking to try and purchase one some time in the future.Hi MarkI have 525 hrs on the airframe now, had 184 on it when I got it 4 1/2 years agoLove it still
Cheers Alf
Cheers Mark
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Alf, how many hours do you have on your Tecnam these days if you still own it, it's been a few years since I have done much on this site
Regards,
Mark
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G'day, can people tell me their thoughts positive and negative on the Tecnam P2002 model, I've been very keen on this model for some time now and have done my last few bfr's in this model. I find it a very easy to fly, easy to land aircraft. P2002 owners please share your thoughts.
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Hello fellow flyers,Just wondering if any of you out there have any information on how to remove the canopy on a Tecnam Sierra as nothing is in the maintenance manual and I cannot get a reply from the local Victorian Tecnam dealer or Tecnam support in Italy.
If anyone has removed one I would very much appreciate any assistance/advice as I need to remove it to access the co pilots side canopy stop as it has sheared 2 of the 3 pop rivets from ham fisted passengers getting in, it now slides back to far jamming the right side open which is then quite difficult to get the rollers back in.
I removed the 4 screws each side of the canopy but something else at the front is preventing it from lifting off and I cannot work it out.
Cheers
Alf
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Good play on words with the name.I sinned and posted elsewhere before coming here. However, better late than never I'm an aviation bore and enjoy slipping the surly bonds in anything that enables me to.I'm here to boost the WA numbers and prove that not all aviation involves the 'other' coast
Regards, Mark
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Good evening Ron, it has been a long while since I have caught up with you, sounds like the VP1 is a great plane to fly. I'm assuming you remeber who I am. Mark Edwards Darke Peak and yep still flying around in Terry's Jabiru, nearly a 1000 hours on it now and going well.Vippy, (my Volksplane VP1a) flew again last week after a few months off. I received my provisional registration late April last year and started the testing but came to a halt when we found that the prop was too course for my draggy old aircraft so ordered a new Brent Thompson unit. After a two month wait it arrived and we started again - only to come to a sudden stop with the mandatory control replacement.Finished this a few weeks ago and can get back to flying the old dear again again and what a difference a few months make - When we started, temps were around 15 degrees. This gave me a climb rate of around 500 fmp. Now with temps around 30 degrees we are only seeing barely 400 odd.Changing the 16600 Jab to a 2200 would make the world of difference but would also probably mean a divorce a I have spent for too much on the rebuild already.
That said, the VP1 is still a delightful plane to fly and a forgiving taildragger to land.
Cheers
Ron
Bye for now.
Mark
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It definately gives you a buzz taking an interested aviator up for cruise in the sky for awhile plus sharpening the skills in taking passengers.Good onya, Mark! The latest EAA magazine from the US has an article on their Eagle Flights scheme, and in the article a guy (Brady Lane) describes doing the same - taking friends up for a fly to get them hooked and encourage more people to learn to fly....CheersNeil
Thanks Neil.
Mark
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Took one of my little girls for a fly on Saturday, 4 year old, she absolutely loves it, looking over the neighbours houses from above. Also took a bloke for an hour fly that is keen to do his licence, couldn't wipe the smile off his face so as a pilot that makes for a great opportunity to share the passion of flying in light aircraft.
Mark
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I see your picture is a Tecnam 2002 Sierra, I do my BFR each time in a Tecnam 2002, a beautiful plane to fly, light on the controls and very responsive. Do you own one or hire one? Still a dream to own one at this stage!!!Just some days Mark,I look up at it every day picturing me cruising around, and the days I am up there looking down wondering what the poor people are doing that day.Cheers
Alf
Regards,
Mark
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I think I have finally worked out how to post these messages properly, it's a learning curve.
Had an encouraging chat with a bloke the other day that is interested to learn to fly and hoping one day soon to take him for a fly in the Jabiru so he can enjoy that and the thrill of getting off terra firma.
Mark
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Some days you look up and just wish you were up there cruising around.
Mark
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I am still getting used to posting new messages
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Hello everyone I have just landed and always enjoy the challenge of landing
Another Jabiru owner
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All a matter of what's affordable in the budget 7252 and Nightmare, I appreciate your thoughts. Cheers