R28R36

Have decided to attach the pdf file here for all to see. Will probably get a backlash from the "person" himself but I don't really care. People need to see this.

Suggest all people outraged send their disappointment to Steve Tizzard CEO RA-Aus. Have no fear as Steve is on our side and will be more than glad to recieve your input...

(email: [email protected] )

The mind boggles ... I have sent details of my email ..Dave C

Dave C and others please note: (its not your mailbox address at TAA, which as far as I can tell does not allow attachment; but your actual email address so I can attach the pdf complaint file)

RA-Aus Board Member Misbehaves At NATFLY 2011!

Formal complaint lodged with RA-Aus.

Want to learn more? Request a copy of the complaint from CEO Steve Tizzard ([email protected]) or from President Eugene Reid ([email protected])

Hi again,

I've received requests from several people who do not wish to receive a copy from the RA-Aus and have requested that I send them a copy directly. If you are in same position please contact me on my email at

[email protected]

and I'll forward the complaint to you...

R28R36

Only for the persons concerned I guess.... it's his site, he can do what he wants I guess, not like you're paying for it.

There is an alleged conflict of interest between his function as a Forum owner and the position of being a Board Member. The added conflict is that it’s alleged that he uses the site for personal gain etc Could it be in recent news about attempting to distance himself from his forum that the penny has dropped?

Interesting argument indeed...

 

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying it isn't going to increase the safe outcome of aviation... what does the local police person get if he takes your license off of you for being over the limit etc... does he get a chorus of 'he isn't abiding by the safe practices because he has taken me off the road?'.

The point being made is the exact opposite. Consider: If a person building an aircraft and is making a fundamental structural error that will result in an unsafe aircraft which could/would be involved in an incident/accident and the very person who could correct mistake is banned ... that's the type of "unsafe" outcome I'm referring to ...etc

This situation has occurred, to a degree, to moto where he was banned from imparting information to a fellow member for him having the temerity in mentioning a brand within his post!...

Think about it and evaluate in your mind what the correct position is.

Once more I suggest you having a look at the RAAus Mission Statement (http://www.raa.asn.au/admin/mission.html) because its your responsibility to follow the guidelines. The statement is not political its a set of principles that all members need to aspire to. You would expect Board Member to be the first to align their behaviour towards meeting all the objectives contained in this statement.

... Just because a few grumpy old business owners express an opinion here about what the board may or may not be doing (and none of the above posters are board members as far as I can tell) doesn't make it fact.I suggest we deal with fact and not fantasy... and all of the above is fantasy until proven.

May I humbly suggest you start by examining the RAAus Mission Statement (http://www.raa.asn.au/admin/mission.html) then evaluate how much of the Statement the alleged Board Member actually abides by? His job description would need him to abide by 100% of the ojectives or would it? Trust me its an interesting exercise!

Moto:- Hard to believe but you're right.

One now needs to examine the consequences of such bans, In an extreme situation it could lead to someone getting hurt because the very person who could have published a warning was banned from doing so.

Aviation in all respects is highly technical and requires expertise. In the natural course of things this expertise is freely shared either through friends, groups (chapters) and often within forums.

Banning people to some degree limits the free flow in the interchange of ideas and knowledge so vital towards getting a safe outcome in avaiation...

Study the RAAus Mission statement and you'll find emphasis made that all members should actively promote the free flow of ideas etc... I find it difficult to understand that a RAAus Board Member could or would allegedly flout such a directive.

The problem with board members is that it's the members that vote them in and the RAAUS can't get rid of them easily.As a member when you choose to vote, all you have to go by is some fabricated rubbish that they may or may not choose to insert in the magazine as their election statement. It doesn't even have to be the truth it would seem, just something that will make you want to vote them in, in the hope that they might best represent you as a member. Unfortunately the nominee could be a potential murderer, criminal, nut case or just a plain liar and unless you know them personally you have no idea who you are voting for. Voter beware!

 

I'd love to see board members at my field at least once a year but that's never happened. They are off doing their own thing and making money running their own aviation businesses most of the time it would seem. You shouldn't have to ask them, they should make an effort to visit clubs and schools and hear what the members have to say. Email and websites are not always the best mediums considering the age / demographic of RAAUS members.

In any democracy if the sum total of board members express a majority by way of a no confidence motion in a board member then in any democratic board that board member must resign.

Not so unusual when you consider the operations of our Parliament and our democratic system in general.

If not then the RAA is putting itself above and beyond democracy. I'm sure its not the case with RAAus.

Gajab - Sold to who? Can you supply the new owner's name as we will need to query the new owner for reasons/legal-action considering its sevant caused a problem

Glenn- Thanks. Have a look at another I sent.

Glenn I sent you an email - get back to me...

Most likely!

The problem is far greater than you could ever imagine. His behaviour, I'm told, is irrational - those companies and general members are close to revolt!

A concerted effort may just produce a positive result for the RAA.

Has anyone got any details about a RAA board member who is under a cloud for:

• Not abiding by the RAA Mission Statement
   
   
  
• Running his forum in a manner of conflicting interest with RAA guidelines (Mission statement)
   
   
  
• Editing posts without the real authors knowledge – changing the content to suit his requirements
   
   
  
• Banning some Australian Aviation Companies off his forum ((Lifetime ban)
   
   
  
• Banning many Australian members because they disagree with him (Lifetime ban)
   
   
  
• Banning overseas forum members for disagreeing with him
   
   
  
• Being a hindrance to the growth of Australian Aviation
   
   
  

It’s the same board member that registered the domain name www.australianflying.com.au. The registration of this domain was contested by the well known magazine and a decision was made against the RAA Board Member on the grounds that he registered the domain in bad faith.

With the coming elections contenders need to be aware of this. I’m informed that that there are countless complaints lodged with the RAA.