moto

That's ok. I didn't know Kev was a L2. I'm sure you will have plenty of fun in that N.11 !

Hi Flyerme,

I knew that N.11 when Peter Franks owned it, as well as when the 3rd owner had it here in Qld. Nice machine. Just wondering, did you get an Aircraft Condition Report done ?

Well, I'm pretty much done on the subject, at least for the moment. But you would have to question why anyone would register the company name of a rival. He tried doing with Australian Flying and got his ass kicked, but then, little that this guy does makes any sense to me. It is sad that his website is otherwise good.

Hope to catch up with a few of you at Archer Falls this weekend.

Note:THE AUSSIE AVIATOR PTY. LTD has ZERO connection with this TAA Forum or it's owner. That company name was registered for purposes unknown.

 

As far as this discussion is concerned, it may be time to move on guys. Let's talk about flying.

Good Morning Tomo.

I was going to reply about the 'grumpy old man' thing and the fact that I was banned for attempting to answer a posters technical query as it was within my area of expertise, but made the mistake of using a blacklisted product name. How ****** impertinent and childish.... As for being a disgruntled businessman, then I'm in the clear as I was acting as an experienced Level 2 with free advice.

No, what got me going this morning was your comment about 'taunting'. Please realise that it was not my intention that anyone post a query simply to provoke a reaction. I merely wished to point out that anyone following the thread that thought we were making this stuff up only had to try it for themselves. So you are on the wrong tram here - none of us were banned for 'taunting' - simply for trying to assist fellow members and this guy took it upon himself to deny us and other members the benefit of our experience. If you are talking about respect, then who is the one showing disrespect ?

As for signing up by the rules, show me where it says anything about this sort of selective censorship. And yes, I have had a posting where a whole paragraph was deleted without my knowledge. If he had of written back and said the whole piece was not acceptable then fair enough, but you can lose the whole point, or worse, by posting half the story. As a former professional journalist, I find this unacceptable.

Last, but not least, you seem like a nice young fellow with legitimate concerns about our hobby. It is great to getter younger people involved and take an interest, and you don't have to agree with us to be accepted. But mostly we are a bunch of grumpy old men with considerable experience in the industry, and a former Board member in my case, and don't like being treated with disrespect by the guy in question.

BTW, are you going to Archer Falls this weekend ? If so, maybe we can catch up.....

Interesting argument indeed...

 

 

I wouldn't go as far as saying it isn't going to increase the safe outcome of aviation... what does the local police person get if he takes your license off of you for being over the limit etc... does he get a chorus of 'he isn't abiding by the safe practices because he has taken me off the road?'.

 

You could take that the wrong way and get all accusing at me... but you have to take this logically, if you don't abide by the rules (you read when you sign up I think? - it's been a while), the obvious is going to happen. I don't blame him for banning you because trying to taunt him, as one user mentioned here, 'just try it and see', what do you think he's gonna do? doh! (you don't generally hear that from grown men - C'mon, show a bit of respect for a person I would think)

 

I hate politics, and don't really go into all the ins and outs - flying is much more fun I find!

 

But a bit of respect for a fellow person goes a long way I reckon, whether he's doing what 'you' want or not. Taunting someone just for the sake of it is really hard on that someone. Physically and mentally.

 

Using the 'safe outcome' argument isn't really going to work, particularly for a certain company that was at Temora this year, and displayed some pretty poor 'safe' stuff at one point. Maybe just consider all sides before running in to attack?

 

I really don't get involved in the nitty gritty of everything, so wouldn't know the facts - but I was brought up in a home where respect for someone is a high priority - no matter what their position, something I find hard to see in some of these posts I read here.

 

Yours in flying

 

Tom

If the RAA won't do anything then all we can do is ignore him and his site. The message will eventually sink in and he may crawl back under that rock.

In case anyone is following this thread with scepticsm, simply try posting on 'the other website' a query with Rotec or X-Com in the text. If you aren't banned outright, no matter how legitimate the query, then the offending part of the text will be removed or edited without your approval or any acknowledgement as to same.

When you consider how many RAA members actually vote in the elections, and how many actually nominate for a Board position, it is no wonder we end up with this jerk. I find it incredible that as an experienced Level 2 and constructor, that this moron can ban me for trying to assist other members simply because I mentioned a product on his 'blacklist'

So other members are now denied free professional assistance and advice from me and others because of some meglamaniac, as I won't go near that site ...

I can only assume it is the guy from the other aviation forum. The site has potential, but he rules it with an iron hand. I have been banned from it for merely mentioning a brand name when trying to reply to a genuine query. Weird.