john emmerton

Hi Roscoe........fly safe, above all else.....I am sure that you do..! I will put down my $10 K deposit in around 4 weeks time, and then Karl Faeth and Sue Ingham from S.A. will do the delivery for me. Cheers, keep in touch.

 

 

Welcome to the forum John, I own a J160 and flown it over most of Australia on holidays with no problems, just that the engine and has to run very cool with the CHT just into the green scale for trouble free running.

Do you cruise at 90 kts or a little faster...?? I will be curious to hear.

Cheers, and many thanks.

 

 

I haven't flown the 160 but have heard its more positive to land. Also John I am getting excellent service from Jabiru and have been to Bundy to check out their operation first hand.My 170 should be ready at the end if this month so I will let you know how it goes. Cheers

Thanks Roscoe........pls keep me informed, as by then I will have to decide between the 160 or the 170. The 160 is sweet to land. 1sr check, and then a couple of seconds later the 2nd check. If the final approach is stable, you can feel the landing gear flare out under you and then return to the "loaded" position as the aircraft decelerates. I always had trouble in the "float" with the 170, but I think that that is due to only a handle full of hours in the 170, whereas I had many more hours in the 160. The 160 felt so good to me that it was like putting on a pair of old work boots - reliable, dependable, and would not let me down. The 170 now appeals to me however due to the potential for slower landing speeds. I also have a high regard for the Jab as an aircraft. When I was doing my training at Gawler in S.A., we students worked the three 160s very hard. And....the factory support was always very good. If there was going to be a problem with service / backup / support, we all would have heard about it. And the Jabs were being flown 6 days a week. Cheers mate.....let me know how it all goes.

 

 

Gday John, have been doing conversion from GA and read Review on this site and liked handling characteristics of the 170 which is similar toWarriors I have flown.The 170 Review I read written by an obviously experienced and un biased Pilot answered all the things I needed to know and just suited me perfectly for what I wanted.

I also considered a 230 but just couldnt justify the extra $15K and the 170 has greater payload for not that much less speed.

 

Have you seen the Pilot Flight Reviews of all the JAB models on this site?

 

Regards Roscoe

Yes.......and I have been thinking about the 170 as opposed to the 160. The 160 is my first preference, as the 170 always seemed to float on landing a little too much, but I now think it may be 'cos I invariably tried to land the 170 with a little power on. I am due to plonk down my deposit in a few weeks, so it may yet be the 170 I eventually buy. Cheers Roscoe.......good to hear from you.

 

 

Hello JohnI am also a new member and an picking up my new J170D at the end if this month. Lets keep in touch!

Roscoe

Hello JohnI am also a new member and an picking up my new J170D at the end if this month. Lets keep in touch!

Roscoe

Out of curiosity, what made you go for a 170 as opposed to a 160...??

Cheers,

 

 

In the United states they have a saying "Go drink your Kool-Aid" but I've noticed people have taken to "Go fly your Jabiru" if they want to be really insulting.

I have to say I am puzzled by the outright venom that some people express in relation to the Jabiru.......in the 100 plus hours I have on the 160 and the 170 at my training school, we had three of them. Apart from routine maintenance, there were, by comparison, very few serious issues, and the Jabiru factory in Bundaderg supported us 100 %. If there were any serious issues re support from Bundaberg, I would have heard about them. We had three jabs......all of them did a lot of work with us students. I am yet to be convinced that there are serious issues, with either the Jab or the factory support. And of course, there are nearly two thousand of them flying, as I understand it, right around the world. Not bad......!

 

 

Hi John,congrats on your decision to purchase a plane, I too own Jabiru aircraft a 230 and a 160, to say that my run with these aircraft has been abysmal would be an understatement to rub salt into the financial wound the factory has behaved both deceptively and arrogantly.

Its easy to call me a Jab basher but my advice is based on experience I too was once passionate about the plane but it quickly changed to frustration and financial depletion as I bounced from one component failure to another. I am not alone in this position and prior to forking out your hard earned talk to lots of owners, sure there will be those with good and bad but weigh up how many bad to catastrophic experiences and you will clearly see a trend, not one owner in my previous location would purchase one again, and given the engines reputation when it comes time to sell you wont even be able to give it away ( I know).

 

I would recommend that you very carefully consider your purchase as once its out the door in my experience the factory will be of no assistance.

 

I am sorry to rain on your parade as they say but I wish someone had have pointed out the statistics before I blindly outlaid my cash on these aircraft.

 

By all means PM me with your email and I will send you correspondance from the factory that may change your mind, history of both my aircraft and the latest issue, the factories theft of my property.

Email me [email protected].........I am curious to hear your side of the story. Cheers,

 

 

Hi John, welcome to the forum,It is good to see you getting your own aircraft (especially a Jabiru), moving back to SA, having your own hangar at Truro Flats, and getting back with all those fantastic guys and gals up there, life doesn't get better than that. .

Haven't been up there for quite some time but will no doubt catch up with you again sometime.

 

All the best,

 

Alan and Jacqueline Marriette.

Fantastic to hear from you both......god, I sure do miss Truro flats, but I will be back there in a couple of months. I will be retiring to my property in Waikerie, and every w/end I will be back on the airfield. Take care, both of you. And again, great to hear from you both.

 

 

:welcome:Here's as good a place as any to say g'day John. Welcome to the forum.You will no doubt find other jab lovers and also some jab bashers but take it all with a grain of salt and enjoy yourself

Yes........you are correct.......the "Jabiru" tag elicits much comment...! Very passionate....very intense.....very emotive....reminds me of 50 years ago when I was a 14 yr old teenager, with an absolute fascination for exercising my left wrist by utilising another part of my body. (Always good to exercise, I say to myself....) But I look forward to picking up some Jabiru owner tips from this web site. Cheers my friend, fly safe......I am sure that you do.

(John Emmerton, currently living/working in Alice Springs, and retiring back to S.A. in March 2014.)

 

 

Do you intend flying your new plane from Bundaberg to Truro Flats? I flew mine from Bundy to Gawler with an over night stay at Bourke. this link, http://users.adam.com.au/kleb/welcome.htmlgives a few details.

Yes, I have lined up 2 experienced Jabiru instructors who have done this run several times b4.

 

 

Welcome. Where are you going to operate from? Nev

Truro Flats, S.A.

 

 

Welcome John, Are you going to have a Rotax in the new bird?

No.....it will be the standard jabiru engine.

 

 

Welcome. Where are you going to operate from? Nev

Truro Flats in S.A.

 

 

I was fortunate to fly with him too.........cheers mate.....I will always remember the Human factors course you ran and the great BBQ afterwards.

 

 

Not sure if this is the place to do this, but "Hi".......I am a low time jab jock.....about 100 hours total and will be buying a new J160 D in March 2014.