Simon Mo

My personal opinion on students going soloSolo is a subjective thing, it means they can fly aircraft under very controlled conditions for a circuit and hopefully get back in one piece. They usually do half a dozen circuits with an instructor, and they are in the groove.

 

As you all know I hope, it’s not something that means the student is safe in varied conditions that change. Solo means that got the monkey off the back, and now you can really start teaching.

 

Also what aircraft are you flying, you can launch a student in a drifter for example all things being equal faster, then you can in the hot metal beasties with all the switches and flaps, why because drifters etc are just easier to fly and things do happen a lot slower.

 

Now you have the student, and the students come in a wide range of varieties.

 

Some are apprehensive initially or did they just come from a top gun school after watching a movie.

 

I know of one student that had a fear of flying and can to learn to fly to overcome it, from memory it only took him an extra three or four hours extra than usual to go solo. Then you have what I call the uncoordinated types, there are always a handful.

 

Then you have consistency of training, do they fly once or twice a week today fly once or twice a month.

 

Weather, did you get a good run of weather or not although a good bit of crosswind or bumpy weather made them much better on the controls in circuit training.

 

Then you have instructors, you have good ones you have bad ones, just the fact.

 

My personal opinion is that I prefer a student to take slightly longer just because it’s given him more time wiggling the stick gaining muscle memory and just have a little bit of edge of experience if you could call it that.

 

In the decision to send a student solo from my point of view, was not that he had six perfect landings beforehand, but for example on finals if he was doing well I would kick in a bit of rudder or push the stick over on short final to watch him recover and unsettled aircraft and he or she still put had it down well.

it is really useful for me

So so many variables, dont read much into it.

I believe that could be a good thing.

I took about 60, don't worry about it.

I wouldn't worry about it to much - its not a contest. As long as your enjoying it thats the main thing. Just remember that pilots who fly solo at minimum hours usually having been flying with their dad since they were a bub or have clocked up about 1000 hours on a flight simulator prior to training. It also depends on how much effort you put into your lesson before and after each flight - and of course your instructor. Keep at it and don't stop now is my advice. It gets better and better.

I am not going to stop my training because I really love and enjoy flying

I think that my main problem is landing because I always hold off too early or all the wheels touch the ground at the same time.

Why not go see another instructor to get another perspective on your progress.Although Camel provided sound advice, I think you'll hear from everyone in this forum that as a pilot you are always learning so it can't possibly be perfect from the start.

but I don't have the fixed instructor, the instructors in my flying school always change so I always fly with different people. sometime, I really get confused because their standard and the skill of flying are always different.

Don't worry about how long it takes to reach solo, it's quite irrelevant.When I was instructing it became evident that many of those that went solo quickly tended to stagnate for a while afterwards, whereas those who took longer at the beginning often ended up the best pilots because their learning was constant and they absorbed more, and forgot less.

 

Just enjoy the journey.

think you:cheers:

Don't worry Simon Mo, I learnt with a very thorough and excellent instructor but what I didn't realize he expected a very, very high standard and said many times that he wanted all his students to stay alive. I also lived in a mountainous area ! The problem was I didn't go solo until 25 hours, depressing yes ! but thankful now, have been in many situations that required calm skilful handling and decisions. I'm now an instructor and I tell students I expect a high standard and I make no excuses and tell them I want them to stay alive. The time required or to say in a much better way the skills required are not all achieved in the pre licence period !I would never frown on anyone for their learning time unless they were outright dangerous ! Meet a few with licences !

Good luck and enjoy the journey ! You will be a better pilot for it, and live !

you must be a good instructor:cheers:

My instructor told me it's generally all to do with age.12 hrs for me at 36 years young....

Saw a father and son train together. Teenage son solo at 6hrs. Dad (late 40's or early 50's I guess) still not solo at 20 hrs....

so sad

And maybe you will be a better prepared pilot than others. Congratulations on going Solo.

I will finish my license on my best:cheezy grin:

I fly in moorabbin airport. I got my first solo after 25 dual hours. is it bad record for me？ usually people get the first solo after about 10-20 dual hour. Maybe I am a slow learner

So from your other posts are you still going to soar?If so send a pm to stevenpam as he flys the foxbat at Soar Moorabbin.

thank you for your advice

I will contact him:smile:

Still subject to the general competency rule. If you have never flown a particular aircraft before, and the first time you do you take it up solo and crash, you are going to struggle to justify that one. Also common sense should prevail, for example if you have only flown a c172, I would suggest jumping straight into a C210 would be borderline suicidal unless you got some training in it.

I will take some training before flying the different models of aircrafts

Becuase there light and Cessna's and Pipers are heavier!Being light they can zoom along.

Yes.In reality your licence allows you to fly Cessna's and Pipers, but best to do a check ride on one as they are faster and will handle differently.

I made a comparison to these aircraft. why do Foxbat's and Aquila's engines have less HP than Cessna's and Piper warrior's but Foxbat's and Aquila's max speed and cruise speed are faster than the others?

Just a cheaper option for ab intio, as you go further into your training you move up to higher performance aircraft.If you move onto another school with Cessna's and Pipers your just burning money for the same licence, you can easily fly Cessna's after a quick lesson on one of the aircraft after your rpl/ppl.

 

As long as we are talking RPL/PPL and not RPC/PPL

So it makes no difference to what aircraft that I choose but I can save more money by flying Foxbat and Aquila and when I obtain the RPL and PPL no matter what aircraft I fly in my flight training,I can also easily fly Cessna or pipper warrior after a quick lesson.

am I corrected?

hello:smile:, I am simon. I am going to obtain both RPL and PPL license in Australia but I am a few questions about the training aircraft.

first. the flying school ,that I am going to study in ,is using Foxbat for RPL training and Aquila for PPL training but in the traditional flying school, they are using Cessna 152, 172 or pipper warrior for the flight training. So what are the differences between them? are Foxbat and Aquila suitable for flight training ? or should I choose the school using Cessna 152, 172 and pipper warrior as training aircraft?

thank you

look forward to your rely:smile:

I only have second-hand info about them and I know some of the staff - all good.I believe they have an option to pay in advance for a reduced rate - my advice is always keep your money in the bank and pay as you go.

They have an option that I will be awarded 10% credit bouns if I pay above $500 for the deposit when I enroll and I don't have much money so I am hesitated about should I pay all the fees at one time, getting the credit bouns.

I have heard many things about soar aviation and most of these are so positive so I don't worry about the quality of soar aviation. But only one thing that I am concerned is the training aircraft becuase I saw some information about Foxbat A22 and Aquila A210. there are somethings such as joystick different from typical training such as Piper Warrior, Cessna. Althouht it is cheaper to fly with Foxbat A22 and Aquila A210, I don't really know are they good for training.

may I ask a stupid question?

are all aircrafts' control ways as similar as one another? I mean that if I am able to fly with Aquila A210, does that mean that I am able to fly with Piper Warrior?

thank you

look forward to your rely.

http://www.goflying.net/go-flying-australia-podcast-020-flight-training-takes-off-at-soar-aviation.html

I have browsed the website and soar aviation look good.

I am going to apply for the RPL and PPL course to them on monday if I can't find another flight school better than that

Hi Simon,May I ask if you have checked out other schools in the area? Also are you limited to the Moorabbin area? There are a number of schools in surrounding areas which might be comparable in cost, especially if you take factors such a Moorabbin charges, scheduling lessons and learning out of Moorabbin itself.

I have checked out other schools in australia but there are many flight in australia and I don't know which is good or bad. Also, I am not limited in the Moorabbin area but in the Australia. My limitation is that I don't have much money so if you have better suggestion for me, please tell me.

Thank you

look forward to your rely.

thank you for your answer

I also don't have much money so soar aviation should be suitable for me

your comment is very helpful for me ,thank you

hello everybody:smile:

I am planning to obtain the RPL and PPL from soar aviation in Australia but I have a few questions about that college. I hope that anyone can give me some suggestions or share some experience to me. Thank you~

1. did anyone hear of soar aviation or anyone studied there before. Please, give me some advices that is there good for study or share me the experience of studying there.

2.they are using Foxbat A22 and Aquila A210 as the training aircraft. I am not familiar with aircraft models but as far as I know, usually, flight schools use Piper Warrior, Cessna for training; therefore, my question is that are Foxbat A22 and Aquila A210 good aircrafts for training?

thank you:cheezy grin:

HI all, I am Simon. I am now planning to obtain the PPL in Australia and in the future, I want to be an airline pilot. welcome to be friend with me:wave: