Awqward

I got my PPL in Singapore in 1992 at the RSFC...(should have done it in Australia but I was living there when the bug struck!)....the training area was boxed into a small corner in the NE of the island....I did my cross country training in Malaysia... apart from having interesting places to go (like Tioman Island and Malacca) it is MUCH more cost effective to fly out of Senai...it’s about an hour’s drive from Singapore...plus there (used to be?) a couple of N reg aircraft which is handy if you have an FAA licence (standalone or Part 61.75)

 

 

You’d be better off driving across the causeway to Senai airport in Johor... FRAS flying club or Johor flying club or Elite flying club...

 

 

There was nothing in the handbook to that effect Auqward... hey what flying is permitted in Dubai?

Jazirah Aviation Club

I used to fly c172S from Umm al Quwain but they shut that down a few years ago...so for private flying it’s just LSA and Microlights...

 

 

Thinking about the roll, they were prohibited in this type ( Glasflugel Mosquito ), so he had to continue with the loop huh.

Huh indeed...Slamming it into the ground is probably prohibited too! ;-) Good use of ground-effect though!

 

 

Wrong. Angle of attack stalls a wing, not airspeed.

Yes...that’s true...in this case the angle of attack is higher because the horizontal component of the relative air is reduced on the inside wing...ie lower airspeed....while the component normal to the plane of the wing is the same....thus the resultant airflow over the inside wing is at a higher angle of attack...so not wrong...just not a full an explanation.

 

 

Yes if there's less lift on one wing the plane will roll . The smallest radius turn will be at the lowest airspeed you can safely achieve. In some circumstances extending flap is the way to turn sharper. Nev

Exactly...it’s not the fact that the wings are no longer horizontal that causes the lower wing to stall first...it’s the fact that it has slightly lower airspeed because it is on the inside of the turn...

 

 

If you want to know why it isn't legal, go back to the accident statistics of the 300' days.

In the US and the UK there is no 500’ or even 300’ limit....Which covers around 75% of the world’s private pilots and I don’t think they have huge numbers of low flying accidents... in fact EASA set a 500’ limit but the UK filed a derogation meaning it doesn’t apply in the UK... So in Australia you’ll never (legally) know the joy of flying along a deserted coast at 10’ or even 100’...

 

(Btw, I have US, UK and Australian PPLs)

 

 

The FAA require either turns around a point, figure of eights or s-turns along a line feature at low level (600-1000’) as part of the practical flight test for the private licence... I did mine with a 25kt wind...useful skills...especially since the US (and the UK) allow low level flight (right down to just above the ground) provided you remain 500ft from people, vehicles, vessels or structures...

 

 

You’re all (most of you!) have it right...which is a relief given the opening gambit on the subject...turning into or away from wind does not affect airspeed...nor rate of climb in fpm...but it does affect climb gradient in fpnm...which is very relevant if close to the ground and trying to escape rising terrain... without knowing ANY facts my first thought was a stall / spin just like the Grumman in Perth...

 

 

The prevailing at the time of the incident at Gosford was moderate NE. So turning left would immediately reduce airspeed.

Oh dear...

 

 

In the US and in the UK the 500' rule only applies to people, vessels, vehicles and structures....you can fly all day at 10' along a deserted beach....now that is fun...

 

 

Fair enough ...360' must be an Australian thing...

 

 

Since it is legally possible for there to be an unmarked structure up to 299' you normally add 1000' to the highest structure OR 1300' to the highest terrain....whichever is higher...

 

 

Hello...I've just joined your group...want to learn more about the world of non-ICAO-certified aviation! I have PPLs from Australia, UK (EASA) and USA...I'm instrument rated and had a Mooney M20J until last year...

 

 

CFI Means "Chief" FI.

Yenn was talking about the US where the "C" does indeed mean "Certificated"....