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Hello IBob. Here in Spain we only have VG and XL. (Not the VGXL, hehe). I am sorry, I didn't explain well about the website. I think the website you said is great, it has many detailed studies and very usefull information. I spent some hours reading there before you spoke about the website, and after. I just wanted to mean that they sell vortex generators, so it could be normal that they could be a bit subjective or more positive sometimes, it was just a comment that I shouldn't say it because it is a personal opinion. What it is clear is that Vortex generators are the improvement of the slats in the Savannah and they give you better cruise, etc. By the way, thanks to everybody about the information that you are telling me. I didn't expect all these fast and detailed answers and all the information that I get from you all. Thanks a lot to you people from NZ, Australia, etc!!

Hey, I just saw this website some days ago and it has good information. By the other side, they sale the Vortex generators, hehe. Yes, 100 hp will be always better but it is more expensive and has more consumption. I was thinking about buying second hand and I have updated my budget to buy a "like new one" option, almost new, for some thousands more... The VG is not the same in Spain, it has not rounded corners (the one I personaly saw and the ones in internet). Correct me if not! Land Africa (BRM) is a Portuguese version of the Savannah, like onetrack says. 😅

Hello, I just got some news. Maybe we can get newer Land Africa for a good price. What do you think about the Land Africa compared with the Savannah? Are they exactly the same? This plane have a Rotax 912 with 80hp, which I think it is much better from consumption. As we said about -25% less consumption. Thanks!

Hello guys, I wasn't expecting all these answers. Really thanks for the fast ans super well explained support. IBod Thanks for the guidance IBod. It looks the Savannah VG had the 912 ULS fitted on them in Spain, at least the ones on sale at the moment. Thanks for the advice about this, I will always look for 912 engines of 2000 TBO and better ignition. Nice advice about the 5 years for rubber and fuel pump replacement. 1000hr checks to the airframe too. I thought the wider model was only for the Savannah XL version. Like cars, the S version is the best. It has 2000 TBO (like many VGs), it is wider like the XL, Vortex instead slots, and has the rounded fuselage corners which is nicer. If the price difference is only 3000 or 4000 euros in the second hand market, it looks the best option. I didn't know about the 4 fuel tanks option, thanks. Everybody uses Mogas for the ultralights in the aerodrome where I go, so it is ok. Hi Skippydiesel. What cons can have to buy an ex-training Savannah (apart from many hours of use), and should I be checking anything particular on these kinds of planes? All the Savannah planes that I see were from "schools" in the past. We have he same 1500 - 2000 hrs TBO for new Rotax engines in Spain. It seems a lot more consumption. We only have 95 octane and 98 octane in Spain. 25% difference is a lot, but I think we only got Rotax 912 100hp in this country or this is what I was told. Thanks for the other messages about ignition and electric system. The "trick" we do at the school when cutting off the engine (we have an old Bingo with Rotax 503) is to cut the last magneto while pressing the choke mechanism to avoid backfiring. Thanks guys!

Hello, I got my license some weeks ago and now it is time to look for a plane. In my country, Spain, there are some second hand ICP Savannah for sale. Most of them are 100hp and their prices are around 34000 - 43000 euros. I have already seen 2 of them, VG and S versions. As I am new to this area, I have many questions. - Would you go for S versions (rounded and wider fuselage) if the difference is only 3000 or 4000 euros? - Is 1000 hours too much for buying a plane like this? - What is the difference in consumption from 80hp to 100hp? I am told it is a very big difference in consumption . - Any advice on what to check when buying a Savannah? Thanks a lot!!!

Hello everybody! I have just got my recreational ultralight plane license. I live in the north east area of Spain, near Castellón and Valencia. I don't have a plane but I am looking for it at the moment. Thanks!!