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Without getting into too many details...I work at Cairns Base Hospital. I can confirm that the man admitted to Cairns Base was not Bob Harris but another man. Obviously I can't go into details on his identity or his condition.

 

 

Nope have a look at his lecture and comments on best glide published figures...The POH best glide is published for an aircraft at Maximum weight only, best glide will vary. So like I said published best glide is something to hang onto when it all hits the fan, the idea that best glide is absolute in all configurations and weights is plainly wrong.

 

 

Tell Bob Hoover that

 

 

Exactly Tomo...so the mantra 65kts 65kts 65kts is basically useless. Darky said it's the best glide for a reason...Well that is BS. Best glide will vary in different configurations and weights. I suggest that it's a 'Ballpark' figure at best and easy to remember when in the poo!

 

 

Nope, I still disagree. They chose that speed (65kts) for a reason, I'm not going to go 'oh I'll just add a smidgen'. Best glide is best glide for a reason. That's one thing that's been drilled into me during training, fly the best glide speed.

If you take off at MTOW is best glide still the same as if you had a failure with 1 hour of fuel on-board and had just de-planed a passenger and luggage??? So are you saying 65kts is the best glide speed no matter what weight you are etc etc...or is it just an approximate and an easy number to remember which will probably be near the mark???

 

 

Hey Howard I saw him at Avalon too 94/95...Without a doubt the best flying display I have ever seen

 

 

Hey Boofhead,

 

You hit the nail right on the head...it is all about a visual perspective...many people have this. (There is a term for it but can't think of it off the top of my head) I get that awful feeling in the pit of my stomach looking off a building, but 5000 AGL it's no problem. There is also an element of learned behaviour, a young child will have little fear but as they are taught that something is dangerous...you get the drift. It's also useful to pilots in that it helps us to judge speed when we are landing. At 10000 you cant tell by ground reference how fast you are travelling but at 50 feet you certainly can!

 

 

Winsor,

 

Whats even more concerning is the multi-million dollar expansion that is apparently going ahead...they wanna be like the big boys and that will mean locking us out...

 

 

I don't think we can assume that Virgin doesn't like ultralights just because they are the only airline still flying into Proserpine...

Yes I think we can, the Airport Ops Manager said so...He said that this was instigated by Virgin, after they had to do a go-around and after some near misses, Proserpine is a small town and when the likes of Virgin threatening pulling out over safety concerns 'real or perceived' or threaten legal action small town councils listen. From what the Ops Off said it seemed to be fear over money leaving the region and liability concerns. Virgin have also threatened to pull out over maintenance issues regarding several aspects of the AD including runway lighting not working etc...also Virgin is not the only Airline flying in there Jetstar has regular flights and so does a few regionals

 

 

Just a quick question. Has anyone spoken to RAA about all this and asked for their position?

Shags, see post 10. Haven't received a reply as yet

 

 

OK everyone let's not forget this thread is about equitable access for us and our aircraft...there are bigger issues here than wounded pride or perceived sleights! So let's kiss and make up and figure out how we can influence Proserpine to re-think their position...

 

 

It's not about it being a good strip or bad, or a long walk or a short walk, or what there is to do when you get there...It is about losing the ability to operate out of these airfields. What if Bowen then decides to do the same, then Ayr, then Innisfail, then Mareeba, etc etc...There are much bigger issues at stake here

 

 

This has really got my goat! and my goat don't like being got! I have also fired a letter off to the local newspapers there pointing to these forums...

 

 

Ok all the legal mumbo jumbo is all very good...Darky you're running for the board...Show us what you can do!

 

 

Well if they are using 'accident history' as an excuse...The only reference I could find to the 'stall on departure' was in 2002. But if you look at the ATSB reports all incidents and accidents that I could find were VH registered aircraft...Even if we are better off inland as Maj suggests, this is besides the point really. Look at the wider implications for RAA. If airports are able to do this, we are going to be running out of places to operate out of.

 

So I rang the airport operator, (Council) who was very good about this...the reasons are

 

1. That someone killed themselves. (2002)

 

2. They can't track us down for landing fees

 

3. Someone made an RPT have to do a go-around

 

4. Virgin doesn't like UL's

 

This has been in for 6 years apparently and their attitude is that ANY Raa registered aircraft is an UL regardless of equipment fitted etc...So your fancy J-230 with Dual Comms, TXPDR and 120 knot cruise is a UL! They also admitted that they really can't do anything to stop you (but not on the record you know wink wink!)

 

 

Mmmm...wonder what they'd do if you were transiting and I dunno maybe you're oil is getting a bit hot and you decide to put down as a precaution?

 

Anyway realised it's useless whining about it on the forums...thought I might let the boss know about this. So I've sent an email to Steve Tizzard, this is the kind of thing he gets paid for!

 

Dear CEO,

 

I have just become aware that restrictions have been imposed on "ultralight" aircraft using

 

Whitsunday Coast / Proserpine Airport (YBPN). As per the latest ERSA. http://www.airservicesaustralia.com/publications/current/ersa/FAC_YBPN_3-Jun-2010.pdf

 

This raises many questions, some of which can be summarised as:

 

1: Is the term ultralight actually defined in Legislation anywhere?

 

2: Is a VH registered Jabiru J-120 an ultralight or not?

 

I am sure you can see where this is going! This is just the thin edge of the wedge, if other Councils get on this we maybe extremely restricted to where we can operate out of.

 

I ask you as our CEO to take up this cause on behalf of the RAA membership.

 

regards

 

 

Yeh totally agree Brett...I haven't added it up and really don't care. Sometimes I go without so I can fly. I am on a very average wage and sometimes sacrifice social outings, food, (lucky water is free!) and many other things! But I still can't help walking past banks and armoured cars and wondering...

 

 

You don't wanna know what I am willing to do to get into a cockpit he he

 

 

Hi all!

 

Well completed my certificate today! ...Have been flying everyday this week for 2 hours plus the hour commute each way in miserable weather on a motorbike! All the flying this week has been in very average weather conditions...Looking at my Logbook and I think I have about 3 hours in blue skies! All the rest is rainy, windy and solid overcast! Can't wait for a nice day! On the plus side went for a flight to Dunk Island during the test...at least the sun was out but was just too gusty to get into Dunk safely as anyone who knows Dunk will attest to it can be murderous to get into in windy conditions!

 

Looking forward to starting the Navs soon...

 

 

Hi all!

 

sorry for the delay in getting back...first of all with 2 x 110kg blokes you are going to be hard pressed to find any aircraft that is limited to the 544kg that will give a decent payload.

 

Back to the weight of the 750, back to my earlier post re:compromises, there ARE 750's that come in at 300kg in the US flying right now. But they had to make COMPROMISES. no fancy interiors, lose the slats, different engines to the factory, basic paint, no folding wings, or 200 litre tanks etc etc

 

So a 300kg 750: leaves a 244 kg payload.

 

2 x 80kg pax: 160kg

 

90 litres of fuel: 65 kg

 

Baggage: 20 kg

 

I managed to backpack through Asia for 3 months with a pack that weighed 12 kilos so 20 is plenty for me. You also don't always need to fill the tanks to the gunnels either. So a 750 is capable of being a very useful aircraft if registered as a '19'.

 

If you want to take advantage of the 600kg yes you would have to go the LSA route, Steve Bell and I had a good conversation about this and it really revolves around $$$ if you are the first to build as an LSA in Oz expect about a $1500 bill to go through the process. But the good news is that if someone else does it before you, you can then get a weight increase on the back of that. (From Steve Bell) These things are selling like crazy in the US so I wouldn't expect it to be long before someone imports or builds under the LSA here. Me I'm going Experimental anyway under the SAAA.

 

 

I wonder if you could give us the "long story", i.e., how the CH-750 properly fits into the 544kg ultralight limit?

 

I will...Im on 2 weeks hols at the moment and just leaving for a mountain retreat...But I can say do you think I would invest a serious amount of money (for me anyway) without crunching the numbers or getting the FACTS from the horses mouth (Steve Bell) who I must say was extremely helpful.

 

But remember in this weight limit you cant have everything...there will always be compromises to be made...We all want full glass panels and all the doo-dads and 200 knots cruise on 4 gallons per hour, Long Range Tanks, Folding Wings ...and STOL blah blah blah. One of the first places I looked for weight saving was my self...Yep can cut 15 kilos there ha ha

 

Back on line next week

 

 

I have the plans for the 750 in my hot little hands, and the tail-kit is on the way!

 

Steve Bell and I had a conversation and the short story is no problems with RAA rego

 

 

Without being there it appears incredibly dangerous. I guess they would have had rego numbers displayed and were using their callsigns on the radio. Any member of the public can file a complaint with the relevant authorities (CASA/RAA), and let due process take it's course. The problem is most people won't, they assume everyone else will etc.

 

I suppose I am saying let's not dance around the issue, report them...if you or anyone else feels safety was compromised because of their actions, this needs to be done. By not taking action it is tantamount to approval for their actions.

 

 

No worries CK...just happened to have that bookmarked from my never ending search for which aircraft I'm gonna buy

 

 

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