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I’ve been caught in a situation like this in a thruster many years ago luckily someone heard us coming in and put car lights on the   Strip there was plenty of light at 500ft but nothing at ground level asi hard to read as no dash lighting 

Sailing and flying overlap. Surface winds exist are not predictable. Planes do not run on rails. Like a sailboat they respond to wind they encounter.. Local knowledge is the key for many situations. Anabatic and katabatic winds, standing waves, mechanical turbulence Dust devils etc as examples Nev.

And of course in Australia we have heaps of VOCs (volatile organic compounds) from napalm, er gum trees. They ain't called the Blue Mountains for nothing. I suspect a few two strokes are negligible. We are governed by idiots as will become obvious when the lights go out.

A trap for us all to remember not just over water many pilots have been killed flying up dead end valleys from the beginning of Aviation

NTSB Releases Final Report in Fatal Icon A5 Accident

Anyone fitting them and not noticing shouldn't be allowed near an aircraft engine. "Boss, these bushes are too loose. They press in too easy".. Nev

I don't know what people see in her, she's achieved nothing in 20 years of politics

InterestingThere have been several of these now

Considering boh CAE and Jabiru have essentially the same cheap piston as do the new Jabiru, its a very relevant failure.

Good job I wonder if he ever found the prop and what failed shaft or bolts I'm guessing it's a 912 rotax

When I first started flying I used to think it was fun flying up through holes in cloud cover and finding another to get back down I don't do that now in fact I've found vfr into imc conditions to be the Most unforgiving situation a vfr pilot can get himself into

There has been a 162 for sale recently at a high price, like +$120k. Dreaming.

Yeah I think your probably right lol

I was talking from a confidence aspect nev

No idea just put it out there for comment enlighten me oscar

The fact remains most people I know would rather fly around with a 912 with 1500hrs on it than a Jab with 500 on it

According to the believers in at least one popular deity, it was an Apple that bought the very first man down... so there's history there...

You could just let the tail come up as the speed increases and take off in a tail low position. You get airborne at an airspeed slower than if the tail is raised , to the more level position and positively rotated for lift off. You then have more control of where the plane leaves the ground. Better in a crosswind. A fair amount of rudder trim is preset. On a sealed runway you can judge by the edges it you are tracking OK but it you need to see where you are going you need the tail up sooner. You can't see much in a C-180 either, let alone a long nosed piston engined fighter. The undercarriage is very narrow making weight transfer due engine torque or crosswind more likely. A geared engine may possibly cancel out most of the gyroscopic precession as rotating masses are in opposite directions. "P" factor is not happening when the pitch is aligned with the relative airflow. Weight and power together give an index of acceleration. Power weight ratio not just power alone. Nev

Just heard on the radio about a incident at Ballina...anyone know anything yet?

Obviously nose wheel failure ie failed to fit one lol

Thanks for the link Bex. It seems pretty clear from this brief account that the Ford boys definitely did the wrong thing and then tried to cover it up. Management can be aggressively dangerous to workers and (of course) labor sometimes get out of control. Nothing to see here...move on! Hehehehe. No offense meant Don:wave:

Any personal feelings good or bad about the company or model either way is moot,... the MATH ain't there!

 

You can't spend a $100 on an item for a return of $50.[/quote

 

Early days yet have some faith it will be hard after this tragedy but hopefully will be overcome I wish them a well.

I am not talking about the innovation, I am referring to the 120 million investment and the ongoing costs, and what returns are mathematically possible.Henry built a cheap simple car that everyone could afford, and invented the production techniques to make it possible - the very area where Icon are struggling. There is literally no comparison between the 2.

Many have been predicting that for a long time. The math has never been there for the 100 million plus invested.Get lots of investment, pay yourself whopping salaries, sell your shares at peak, then find ways out so you walk away rich. MBA 101.

I would be worried about elevator control and hinge damage from them climbing over the aircraft I'm pretty sure if I was caught on camera stealing fuel and tampering with an aircraft I would be arrested

So recent incidents have made me revisit this thread.Without doubt for me the two most disappointing things to come out of this incident are as follows.

Julie has only been up with me a couple of times since the incident and to be honest I am certain that it was only to show some trust in me she has however lost any passion that she may have had for flying which was I will admit minimal to begin with.

 

RAA's response was dismal as was Foxbats. I would simply never bother submitting another incident report.

 

As callous as it may sound, any interest in this incident died with Maj.

 

So disappointing. I have as a result become a critic of RAA and their reporting procedure.

Rotax 912 ULS powered Savannah MXP 740 owner here, British but retired in France, just logged in after googling the thread about cracks in the nose wheel bracket. Great to find such a lively and well informed forum. Came across the thread after stupidly bending my nose wheel leg and smashing my Duc 3-blade prop. Now in the process of getting the leg straightened (only a slight bend) and fitting a new 3-blade Ukrainian scimitar prop. Hope to be logging in regularly from now on and especially following news and updates on the good ole Savannah.