Bob Llewellyn

I'd like to see them get that past the Australia. Prices Justification Tribunal if someone complained, there is no way in the world that airframe can be justified for $60,000+.

Labour content? the Drifter iswas very labour intensive...

 

 

..........certainly torpedoed Elephant Ears Bill and went careering on in one of the greatest post-war friendly fire accidents we've ever seen."Oranges?" a little voice called out "I'M the board members' Orange Boy and you don't want to cross me or you'll get an earful, or ..................."

...perhaps a noce... Urrgh!"; as a spray of frozen peas riccochetted off one of Andy's frozen turds and nearly decrapitated the speaker...

 

 

All aluminum wing and tailplane with a aluminum over steel frame. should be perfect for training environment.

depends on the fatty gue life under training loads... it's a challenge to get the stress levels low enough in the weight limits...

 

 

..... cross between Arnold Swartzenegger and Madge Allsopp (did you all see Arny's latest real estate advert where he mentioned Varger Varger?). But forget about that and get down here digging my trench, as once we get it dug, when Clive steps across into f'n Q it will snap off like a scotch finger biscuit and f'n Q will float off to join onto eastern Niugini & Bougainville where they belong, and then we'll see how chipper they are about secession." 

 

"Good move, Salty" said his great mate Turbo, as he grabbed a jack-hammer to .................

...get on with another trench (where, FFS?). Meanwhile, Ratty had visited his local shrink, who had prescribed viagra, which had given the Ratmeister to think filthily (NTTAWWT)...

 

 

.....but Turbo had good reason, she wasn't called Ida Down for nothing, and.........

in fact, Ida and Madge had been up to something between themselves to while away the Turbo-less hours... meantime Ratso had bought a collection of cheap DVD filth on Ebay, and was getting hot and sweaty just

 

 

theith the righ weather condityioYup, the Piper Archer is the same, even with a full flying elevator/stabilator, a landing can be done with trim only . It may be messy though (but doable) with the right weather conditions and things going your way.

The ASTM doesn't require it, but CAR 3 / FAR 23 require an aeroplane be landable with - from memory - any primary control system failed. The Thruster is not a good look with control failure...

 

 

....... Turbo's right arm was in mortal danger, as he always sleeps on the left side of the bed. (Erky Perky??). 

 

"Hang on" thought Turbid "I can't afford to chew that arm off, because I use it for other things when SniLyH's are unavailable, and that is perhaps why some on WreckFlying call me a ............

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brine told my Aunt that this is the reason that Scotch was invented. ................ For those occasions when "the thickest set of beer goggles that money can buy" are still insufficient.

..n action hero! (sort of...)", as he had another hot flush. "Babe, you're hot!" drawled the SniLyHi, filing her nails and yawning. Just then, a vision in sequinned shirt and hot pants strolled up... it was

 

 

......... instead of nut cutting (that's funny, Andy).

 

"How does he achieve such blockages?" asked the 12 Incher, wincing and going back to just 4.

 

 

 

"He uses the newly developed technique of putting a rubber band around them" reported Bobb LLewellyynn "And they go black like lamb's tails used to."

 

 

 

"Erky Perky" said Salty with his legs crossed & knees bent.

 

 

 

"Can I have a go with one?" asked Ahlox showing unhealthy interest, as he got prepared to .................

...flex his rubber bands. "Here, look you" said Bobbb, holding out a small cardboard box, "these newfangled X-rings work twice as fast and hurt 4 times as much as the old..." Eeeeurgh! said Ratty, knees together and hands over his crotch (medref). There was a sharp crack sound made by the air rushing into the vacuum where the 4-incher had been...

 

 

someone posted "where's the 'What a DH' Icon? I cant let this post past without letting it rip".....

But that post must have been made by a realist who was only new to Wreckflying and little did he know that such a post in NES would lead to a dozen new threads ranging in content from whether we needed a "what a DH" Like, through to the long term impacts on a posters mental wellbeing and the posters Grandchildren's mental wellbeing if it became widely known that gramps was a certified DH....

 

Ahlow was forced to break off his scheduled media announcement, just like Face Palmer did recently in NZ, to try and deal with fallout of the anguished WreckFlyer membership...but without much success right up to the point when Eeeeen was forced to............

...yawn widely.

 

 

..... his fist hand moved like Ginger Rogers and Fred A Stare when they were ...........

negotiating a pay rise (and negotiation styles were crude on those days), but...

 

 

.......... and apart from the fact that "Eminent Queenslander" may be an oxymoron, there is also little doubt that when the "Eminent Queenslander" is pole dancing it may cause an imminent EFATO or FATO in any of the non-eminent Queenslanders that may be watching. 

 

""Eminent Queenslander" may not be an oxymoron" said Brackish "But may just be a moron who is a waste of oxygen".

 

 

 

"Don't worry about taste, mate" replied St Madge of the blessed Any-opportunity-that-he-can-get, "When there is a FATO or even an EFATO to be had, I'll be quicker than a seagull on a chip or a .......

...Thruster in a 200kt tailwind (AVREF)". "Cor!" said Brackish, "you don't half have a tailwind yourself (toilet humour ref). "Do not!" said Madge indignantly, "they don't meet recreational stall speed requirements..."(AVREF). The Caboolture oracle peeked back into the room. "You should spray for all these b***y REFs!" he said, then...

 

 

Eti had all been following Qan Tas for years before deciding among themselves that Qan talked up a good story but when it came to making a profit there wouldn't be much gold leaf that could be used to differentiate economy from......

executive fat-arsed productive heavy-lifting taxpayer (economyref) class, and in any case the fat would use up the weight allowance for the gold leaf. "But wait!" said Roice Roles, "we have new engines, that..."

 

 

Thanks for posting that Adam.Given that the screen shot relates to a forced landing, and a forced landing could easily be fatal given a couple of complications the RAA report is most disappointing.

 

Lithium what?

 

Where is the explanation?

 

Where is the safety warning relating to batteries which should not be fitted into aircraft?

 

The non-fatal incident reports are still way short of acceptable for use as learning tools.

It's a warning to us all that our "due diligence" better be a lot more suspicious, and perhaps even a bit more conservative. I'm pretty sure my membership fees aren't used to pay a set of technical experts... I thought RAAus's job was to allow us to fly at minimum expense and maximum personal responsibility.

Engineering Services in CASA tried, and eventually failed, to provide engineering expertise in GA for this sort of issue; because the administrator's job is not consistent with maintaining up-to-date expertise on everything. It doesn't matter how good the people are, they can't do two jobs at once.

 

I suggest we start a new thread to inform this community on the subject of battery options; there seems to be enough interest?

 

 

..... apologised for offending everyone." 

 

"youze all need a rev (AvRef)" said blank page "for not using capitals and for not mentioning that the sweets at the Mont Perrier $1000 per plate knees-up comprised a compote of étoile de mer covered with a jus of medusa which can only be eaten while wearing collants en votre tête."

 

 

 

At this point the Mont Perrier Bœuf & Burgundy committee tittered behind their hands and immediately called St Madge of the Blessed Mont Perrier Promotions Committee into the room to ............

...introduce the signature event, a discourse on this course by the famed aviation chef...

 

 

......... very very nervous, same like all of those up in F'n Q who see Madge coming in his heliview (NTTIAWWT), then they have the little kiddies shield their eyes because they can sometimes see up the leg of Madge's shorts through the heliview panels (it is a hell of a view) and the f'n Q adults all say "Her comes f'n Madge again, so watch out for his f'n .............

...Boxers, they're blinding". "But... the Lightwing isn't powered by a Boxer!" said some precocious kid. "No, look you!" said some short-arse Welsh figure. "Lightwings used to be 2-stroke, the ONLY engine choice for true Ultralighters!..." at which point, two plods grabbed him. "What's all this...then?" asked one, checking his policing manual. "You a superlighter, eh? TOTAL FIRE BAN, nyahaha..." as they dragged him away. "STOP RIGHT THERE!" said Madge in a voice of thinder, followed by a shriek as he stepped into space...

 

 

.....saftey compliance officer.

"Don'tcha wish ya girlfriend waz hot like......I mean **cough cough** sorry, was just practicing for the karaoke competition coming up" exclaimed Turbo "Don't you mean safety compliance officer Epauls?"

 

"Nope" replied the gilted one "I meant saftey officer, it's my job to promote saf and tey, which really means that I get to......

 

Letter to the Editor: Bandit wishes to send his regards to Mrs Rat, and to explain that he had no part in any Ghost Dog behaviours, nor was he responsible for anything that may or may not have happened to her sheets. Bandit also suggested that a healthy dose of vitamin B might help what ails young Ratty, preferably B12.

...uuurgh!" as he was gently elbowed in the guts by Ben Tley. ""tey" is a corruption of the high Saxon "Tley" said Ben, which means "full of spunk"; "saf" is a norse word, m..." but he was cut off by tubso's choking fit. "That choking really fits you well!" said E'paulette. "Perhaps a bit of bling as well?"

 

 

But hang on a minute. . . . a witness was quoted as saying that "The pitch of the engine changed as the aircraft circled the paddock ( ? ) and then it "HIT" the ground ( ? )Hmmmm,. . . .

The one and only picture shows a very intact looking aircraft, and one blade of the prop is also visible,. . . . . doncha just love "Witnesses" . . . . . . but I guess they just tell it in terms they understand and the reporters teport it verbatim. . . .

 

Some years ago I read about an air accident in the USA, and the only witness was a man who insisted that he heard the pilot "Give it the gun" just before it crashed. The man insisted upon this phraseology otherwise he said he would retract his witness statement. . . .

 

But that was in America. . . . .

The crash sequence from "Flying High" comes to mind...

 

 

For a 600kg aeroplane with an aspect ratio of 7.0 and a (clean) stall speed of 45kts, the speed at which a design gust will cause a 4G event is ~120kt by CAR 3; ~103kts by the ASTM (LSA); or ~90kts using the LSA formula and the results of the old DCA Australian gust spectrum survey.

 

Note that the 45kt minimum stall speed is unique to Australia; for a fully ASTM-compliant unflapped LSA aeroplane (40kt stall), the 4g event speed becomes ~101kts (CAR 3); ~91kts (LSA / FAR 23); and ~75 kts using the LSA formula with the DCA mean gust.

 

Generally speaking, the 100hp class of LSA aeroplanes designed for cruise (rather than STOL) have higher power-to-weight ratios than "traditional" aeroplanes, and so push the edges of their gust envelopes. Of course the actual figures change with aspect ratio, twist, and planform; but not by very much.

 

I was going to post a couple of graphs, but the site won't let me...

 

 

http://www.boatsales.com.au/news/big-cat’s-african-surfari-41259

Aw, what are you blokes on about? I reckon those duplicate Su-25s that are turning up in Iran are a recycled Boeing product, and as there's only one missing Boeing... the timescale's about right too. OBVIOUSLY the oil rig worker was bribed, and the satellite info was interfered with by a death ray based in South America. It wouldn't have happened if James Bond hadn't retired...

 

 

....... rhythm stick, which ..........

 

 

THE WRECK FLYING NES CONTRIBUTORS DANCING AROUND THE WINDSOCK AT WAGGA INTERNATIONAL.

 

 

 

TurdBoy is in the foreground and from left to right are:

 

 

 

AhPox, Eeeeen, Salty, AndySh@, the 12 Incher, bull-from-boner, Planey, the VyzionOfLoveliness, The Dazzler38, Bob LLLewelllynnn, and a couple of other ring-ins & occasional contributors who are behind Turbs.

 

 

 

The cameraman is standing on the bonnet of Tink's Corvette.

 

 

 

Note the 12 Incher's necessary long shorts and AhLow's see-thru white dress (so we are lucky that it didn't rain that day .... erky perky) and Eeeen apparently enjoyed his time in drag (he originally thought he was coming to the Wagga International Dragway but threw himself into the dancing with gusto, however without undies).

 

 

 

Meanwhile, it looks like the Ghost Dog's have been "at it" and now pups are starting to show up ...............

 

 

when suddenly, up popped a brightly dressed ultralight appeared over the windsock. "Oh sh** no!" cried ratty. "It's..."

 

 

Was looking at gumtree ad mentioned in another post where a Lightwing is included in the sale.The ad mentions a 65kt cruise speed for the Lightwing, which I immediately thought was a little conservative, even with a 582. Can someone (Doug and Maj....this means you!!!!) shed any light on that claim?

 

I dared to ask and he was looking around $35K for the plane, which would (for that price) want to have a 912 I would have thought and thus a MUCH better cruise!

 

Also, what is the deal with the single strut LW's? Is that an issue or just not as good as the later versions?

 

Love to hear the low down as there are some nice examples for sale lately.

 

Any info appreciated.

I don't have a Lightwing, but I have some knowledge of them. 65kt IAS wouldn't surprise me as an economical cruise speed, particularly the wooden prop version. This might well translate to 70~72kts TAS... for your $35k, you're getting a full welded steel tube fuselage designed for exceptional crashworthiness, 6061-T6 aluminium wing structure, and no worries about stability or control power under any loading situation. The structural life is also indefinite for the fuselage, and pretty near so for the wing structure.

I believe the single strut option ended up gaining virtually nothing, which just means the 2-strut version had the second strut in the right place.

 

As the cruise speed goes up as the cube root of the power, and a strut-braced Drifter on a 582 will do little better than 65~68kts IAS, I'm not sure why a Lightwing should be much faster.... they had to meet the original silly low stall speed of 40kts, remember...

 

 

....lustre, and have legs like locusts, and....

langorous lingerie and lissom limbs...", at which point he began to sweat in a most unattractive way...

 

 

....... hitting blue bits instead of always worrying about hitting the green or brown bits (AvRef) after the amplitude of my PIO's (AvRef) increased when I scoff down a handful of amphetamines (ChemiRef), which some might consider to be amphibolous, then land (OptimisticRef) on the blue bits, hit a few amphipods, then amble over to the ample chested amoral amnionic amoeba who runs the Blue Oyster and say ".................

"Ahhh.... g'day", real suave like...

 

 

...Fowl-ler flap retract and smooth the airflow over his....

nether or groinal regions, which causes a lee wave...

 

 

".....the sherry at the meetins and gettn our coffee and keepn quiet like we say, youze are gunna be sleepn peacefully beneath the waves by 2 am, and what's more yer little mate with the Sergeant Pepper's Band gold brain on his shoulders will be used for a................................"

...Uurgh!" he said, as he slumped to the carpet. "You owe me money" growled Rattus at the semi-conscious Mockbell-Williams slumped to the floor. "Eeeek" squealed Nana, "a Rat! Oh, it's you...". A series of shocks shook the hotel, and madge grabbed Nana and tried to take shelter under the coffee table. Ratty leaped to the window, and said "It's just Clive Handjob running towards a banana split!". At that very moment...