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  1. The flight from Murray Bridge to Mt Gambier that morning doesn't paint a nice picture either. From FR24, the last 25 minutes were all below 900', dropping down to 600' at times before doing somewhat of a circling approach (3 full orbits) at 200'. After that, airborne again 15 minutes later...

    Well Alf

    If that isn't enough to make someone park up , what is ?

     

     

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  2. FYI - spiralling is identified by an increasing airspeed. That does not happen in a fully developed spin in the aircraft we mostly fly.

    Thanks , I learn something new every day! It was many years ago but I think it was Va speed he drummed into me not to exceed on recovery? Hated every second of it! and as you say the things I fly now are very different, but that training certainly served its purpose.

     

     

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  3. Oscar the spins I experienced when I was learning gliding were fully developed spins and I can assure you I was looking straight at the deck and turning like a top! The old instructor must have sensed I wasn't too keen on the idea and made me wait for at least 3 revolutions before I was allowed to recover it! To this day I haven't let an aircraft past the incipient stage, and i hope I never do!!!

     

     

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  4. The speculation and idiotic opinions annoy me, so insensitive and ignorant. Families looking for answers trawl through these forums, enjoy your discussions boofhead...

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    "A dust devil was nearby, they is Cessna killers as well, I herd about it once, but I am not speclating or nuffing like that , I is not an idiot or ignorant like uvver boofheads, I no xactly what I is talking about. Never ever do I post rubish where famlys is looking cos I is very senstiv to"

     

    You got to wonder sometimes. That light bulb in your head needs switching on

     

     

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  5. People such as you are part of the problem, going off half cocked making ill informed comments. What would you know about manoeuvres in a current model trike ? Having flown an Edge X doesn't qualify.Anyway the networks afternoon news is going to air as we speak with a more factual version of what occurred.

    How the hell can you gain knowledge discussing speculation and rumour !

    This is about the limit to what I know about manoeuvres with an Arrow wing taken from my Airborne manual. Maybe you can enlighten me on any changes

     

    2.6.2 Manoeuvring Limits

     

    All aerobatic manoeuvres including spinning is prohibited.

     

    Aerobatic manoeuvres including whipstalls, stalled spiral descents and negative “G” manoeuvres are not permitted. It must be emphasised that a whipstall, spiral descent or negative G manoeuvre can never be conducted safely. These manoeuvres put the aircraft outside the pilots control and put both the aircraft and its occupants in extreme danger.

     

    Do not pitch nose up or nose down more than 45 degrees from the horizontal. The front support tube of the trike and the pilot's chest limits the fore and aft movement of the control bar respectively.

     

    2.6.3 Bank Angle

     

    Do not exceed 60 degrees of bank angle. In roll there is no stop for the control movement. For the purpose of pre-flight freedom, check by lowering each wing to within 10 cm off the ground (on ground level).

     

     

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  6. People such as you are part of the problem, going off half cocked making ill informed comments. What would you know about manoeuvres in a current model trike ? Having flown an Edge X doesn't qualify.Anyway the networks afternoon news is going to air as we speak with a more factual version of what occurred.

    How the hell can you gain knowledge discussing speculation and rumour !

    Seems like a nerve has been hit!! Perhaps you would like to start a discussion about the Arrow wing? oh bugger, I don't know anything about them! so you say!

     

     

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  7. Please be careful as to what you say in regard to this accident. The airport manager was misquoted by both Herald Son and Border Mail so little if non of the above is fact.Why not just express your condolences and wait for the report before commenting further.

    And which report will that be? You producing one?

     

    The forum is for the discussion of Accidents and Incidents , not just condolences, if you don't feel they should be discussed don't read the forum

     

     

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  8. "Yarrawonga Aerodrome manager Peter McLean told the Herald Sun the men, both experienced pilots, had been performing flight manoeuvres around the airstrip when their XT-912 Arrow struck the ground."

     

    I guess we will never hear any more about these "manoeuvres " or whether they contributed to the accident! Manoeuvres and flexwings are two words I don't like in the same sentence.

     

    Condolences to all those near to them

     

     

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