jamel

I realise we are never going to get an ATSB style of report, but I find it very hard to believe that RAAus does not have sufficent clout to be able to begin a process with the relevant authorities that would enable it to at least release "advice to members" after an accident.

Where there is a will there is normally a way!

I am sure there are several hundred trike jockeys at least who would happily pay at bit extra in fees so a staff member could follow this sort of thing up.

We've covered this subject over and over again. Expect no investigation other than one by police, which is based on providing the State Coroner with a cause of death, not cause of crash, and this report will not be made public.The system almost certainly condemns future pilots to death when they repeat the same circumstances, but that's the system we have - well outside RAA or its board operations, and pretty much the same system as for rock fishermen

What I cannot understand is why RAAus cannot implement some sort of reporting system for the benefit of its members. Does the law prevent it from doing so? Is it because it might open itself up to litigation? It cant be because it doesnt have the funds!

It seems in almost every incident someone with type knowledge attends the scene, in this case the CFI from the local airfield. I bet he would have a pretty fair idea of what happened when he saw the aircraft? But in most cases we hear nothing! Even if there were only indirect recomendations made .

"Be aware of the nescessity of being able to glide to safety"

"Remember to retension prop bolts every 20 hours"

etc etc surely anything is better than nothing?

You seem to have been around for awhile! Is there anyway to get the system changed?

http://www.theherald.com.au/story/1344975/carl-carlsens-fatal-flight/?cs=305....The investigation will centre on whether a fault caused the machine to stop working before it plunged from the sky.

Another news clip stated there were Aviation Investigators on site.

There have already been several incidents and fatalities this year and not a whisper!

Surely RAAus via its Board feels obligated to do something about this?

A spat wouldn't cause the crash though - only a loss of power and engine imbalance due to prop damage. But gliding should still have been possible, and maybe that's what did happen, but they couldn't make land and ditched in the water.I hope the correct details come to light soon.

This is the same trike model I own, so it makes you think!

 

Condolences to all family, friends and those that knew the pilot and passenger.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/central-coast/joy-ride-turns-to-tragedy-after-microlight-aircraft-crashes-into-tuggerah-lakes/story-fngr8h0p-1226591695159

No prop left on it!

Very sad.

Please let there be some sort of worthwhile investigation, was it a structural failure? or was it a case of not being able to glide to safety?

Too right turbo, and certainly not the right time of day to be down around the treetops unless you dont have a choice!

Why would you be flying at 8pm?

Because at the moment there is still plenty of light to operate safely until at least 8.45pm in Vic and SA at least

Incredibly sad, especially for loved ones left behind. But why, why, why? It is happening with monotonous regularity! Maybe it is a nescessity that RAA change its accident reporting procedures forthwith , not only so we can learn of things that go wrong, but to make us all think of the consequences of operating outside proper procedures. I am NOT saying these two young guys were doing anything wrong.

I pray the lady has made one of those tracks, that is not nice country

Thanks for posting the link, missed Landline today, great article!!

Do you mean Huntfield? That is north south though! It is a private strip I think, bit rough, I have only done a couple of touch and goes on it! You can Google it up on "ourairports"

They are on the ball as far as pilot certificates go! Weight Shift endorsement paperwork posted Monday, new plastic card in the mail today! Transfer papers for my new secondhand trike posted four weeks ago, still nothing. At least it is still registered, albeit in the previous owners name.

Sorry for you guys who can do nothing except pull your hair out :-(

Life is full of chances! The likelyhood of falling out of the sky and injuring someone flying over open land is so close to zilch I would be willing to take the risk!

Have a look at Aldinga, reckon u will luv it!! especially after spending all those years in the UK, go there and try their hospitality, you will see what I mean!!!!

What a great forum. I am just starting my nav training having just got 4 solo hours up in a taildragger Sport Cub built by Cubcrafters. I believe there are only about 2 or 3 in Oz at the present. Adelaide Biplanes at Aldinga SA have 2 of these and 3 Sport Stars in their training fleet. Its a great training facility with a really friendly and homely atmosphere!!!

www.adelaidebiplanes.com.au :thumb_up:

PS Even an old bugger like me [55] can learn!!!!!!!