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  1. Humm

     

    Well when the Jabiru engine shop told me the thrust is taken from the propelor flange on a areo plane not the flywheel as a car they lost me,

     

    I agree

     

    The ONLY thing to consider would be the direction of rotation. Which end of the engine you take the drive from is irrelevant.

     

    The way the offset works is to cause the piston to 'rock", because of the pressure acting on the crown. The piston wants to rotate on the piston pin axis. This puts the top part of the skirt against one side of the cylinder wall and the bottom part against the opposite side, and helps to eliminate the "clack" when the piston moves over TDC, under load.

     

    From Nev

     

    Thank you

     

    Legally you should assemble your enging in accordance to the Jabiru manual.

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick:rotary:

     

     

  2. PPL test

     

    Gooday Tomo I converted to GA about 3 years ago PPl test not to hard but Meteorolgy bit was confuesing. Anyway best of luck don't let the flying school bleed you to much. It should be about 6 hour converition .:thumb_up:

     

    Funny I do about 4hours GA and 250 hours RAA per year. The training was good but sick of CASSA and there Parasite fees.

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick :rotary:

     

     

  3. Jab CHT from manal

     

    Hopes this helps.

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick :rotary:

     

    Run in Period

     

     

    Oil 80 100 120

     

    Outside Air Temp -17oC to 25oC 15oC to 35oC Above 35oC

     

    (1o to 77oF) (59o to 95oF) (Above 95oF)

     

     

    Normal Operations

     

     

    Oil W80 W100 W120

     

    Outside Air Temp -17oC to 25oC 15oC to 35oC Above 35oC

     

    (1o to 77of) (59o to 95oF) (Above 95oF)

     

     

    2.6 Cooling System

     

     

    Free air cooled. Ensure that baffles are correctly fitted & located.

     

     

    The required pressure drop across the cylinders at 1.3 Vs in take off configuration is 4.3 cm (1.7") water gauge, minimum.

     

     

     

    2.7 Operating Speeds and Limits

     

    Maximum continuous speed 2750 RPM

     

    Maximum 3300 RPM ISO STD Conditions

     

    Idle Speed: 650 RPM

     

    Oil Pressure: Normal Operations Min 220 kPa (31 psi)

     

    Max 525 kPa (76 psi)

     

    Idle Min 80 kPa (11 psi)

     

    Starting & Warm up Max 525 kPa (76 psi)

     

    Oil Temperature: Min. 15 oC (59oF)

     

    Max. 118 oC (244of)

     

    Continuous Temperature: 80 - 100 oC (176o - 212oF)

     

    Max. Cylinder Head Temperature: 175 oC (348oF)

     

    (reading on the sensor spot

     

    of the hottest cylinder)

     

    Continuous 150oC (302o F) Max.

     

     

     

     

  4. Motor running well

     

    Gooday all after a lot of research us and other LAME when you draw up the cranckshaft, direction the pistion offset we fitted the pistions with the notch to the rear.

     

    Thanks for all your feedback. :hittinghead:

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick:rotary:

     

    Look at the pistion direction humm

     

    Contrails ! Inside a Jabiru

     

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    Anatomy of the Jabiru 3300

     

    Jabiru engine lovers will enjoy this little "journey inside a Jabiru".

     

    Those Jabiru 3300 and 2200 pictures were provided to Contrails by Pete Krotje from Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft, and Jabiru owners, and are published here with their kind permission.

     

    The 4-cylinder Jabiru 2200 technology is quite similar to that of the 3300.

     

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    Jabiru 3300 6 cylinder tear down

     

    Bottom end

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    Note how the engine is secured vertically on the bench with two bolts through the propeller flange. The Loctite 515 tube is for sealing the crankcase.

     

    Near the top, the mechanical fuel pump pushrod protrudes from the crankcase.

     

    Further down are the pushrod holes and and oil orifices to cylinder heads.

     

    At the bottom is the oblique oil pump pickup tube with its skewed end.

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The fully machined crankcase splits vertically.

     

    At the top of the camshaft, in front of the #6 piston, the fuel pump eccentric and its pushrod passes through the right crankcase half.

     

    This model has solid lifters. The oil return holes machined in each lifter housing are clearly visible.

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The top cylinder has one of the through-bolts holding the crankcase half and the cylinder base flange.

     

    At the bottom is the oil filter adaptor with its thread and the oil pressure relief valve nose, washer and retaining ring.

     

    The main oil gallery runs down the length of the left crankcase half at the level of the cylinder head lubricating holes.

     

    Crankcase

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    Matching crankcase halves are fully machined from solid light alloy. The machining is fine.

     

    A serial number can be made out in the #1 piston passage in the right crankcase half. See also the oblique oil pickup tube.

     

    The crankcase has 7 bearings. The #1 bearing shows the recessed thrust bearing washer housing. Note the positioning dowel at each through-bolt passage. Sealing is with O-rings in grooves machined in the dowel bores.

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    Note the waisted through-bolts (10 long, 4 short, 2 very short), and the intricate oil passages to the main bearings.

     

    Looking closely at the lifter housings, the pressure lubrication holes and oil return holes are visible.

     

    The camshaft bearings seem to be splash lubricated.

     

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    Moving parts

     

    Camshaft

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The camshaft installed in the left crankcase half.

     

    The 7 journals and 6 pairs of cams are clearly visible.

     

    At the rear near the timing pinion, the fuel pump eccentric is located between the two #6 cylinder cams.

     

    Also note the two thrust bearings machined in the camshaft near the pinion.

     

    Crankshaft

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The hollow crankshaft is machined out of solid 4140 chrome molybdenum alloy steel. It features 7 main bearings (48 mm diameter). There is a double bearing for the propeller.

     

    The steel shell bearings are of automobile type. The generous oil holes in the crank pins and main bearings are visible.

     

    Lubrication of the big ends is ensured by oblique channels drilled from main bearings # 2, 4, 5, 7, the bearing shells of which have a groove and hole. The #1 bearing shells have no hole, as the oil is fed via the hollow crankshaft main bearing.

     

    The crankshaft seems very light and its finish is outstanding.

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    Hollow 45 mm diameter crank pins have plugs closing the oil circuit.

     

    Thrust faces are machined at the front of the crankshaft and the front face of the #1 crank throw. They bear on thrust bearings housed in recesses in the crankcase.

     

    Each crankshaft end takes a lip seal. Those seals are removable without splitting the engine.

     

    The propeller flange is removable to give access to the front crankshaft seal.

     

    Pistons

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The slipper type pistons come from General Motors Australia.

     

    The very short pin is floating and maintained by circlips in re-machined grooves in the bosses.

     

    The classical 3-ring set includes two cast iron top rings and one expander-type scraper.

     

    Note how the piston passages in the block are narrow, ensuring better crankcase rigidity.

     

    Connecting rods

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The I-section connecting rods are machined from 4130 alloy steel.

     

    The big end caps are tapped for 1×5/16 UNF screws, so disassembly implies removing the pistons and splitting the crankcase.

     

    © Jabiru

     

    Matching big end caps are positioned with two 3×14 dowels [1].

     

    The steel shell bearings [2] (45 mm diameter) are of automobile origin.

     

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    Top end

     

    Cylinder heads

     

    Photo HJ

     

    The heads are machined from solid aluminium alloy.

     

    The combustion chambers are wedge shaped, with the spark plugs located on the thick side.

     

    Note the squish surface (see below) with an "X" mark.

     

    Doc Jabiru/GTH

     

    The wedge shape gives a very compact combustion chamber.

     

    This arrangement results in parallel valves, with inlet and exhaust ports on the same side.

     

    Photo GA

     

    The head shown here is from a Jabiru 2200 4-cylinder engine.

     

    The different diameters of the shrunk in seats are visible : smaller exhaust on the left, larger inlet on the right.

     

    One can clearly see the turbulence generating squish surfaces below the spark plug holes and above the ports.

     

    Please note that the finning is larger on the exhaust side, as thermodynamics dictates.

     

    Valve gear

     

    Photo GA

     

    The picture shows the valve gear components.

     

    The parts are the same as in the Jabiru 3300 6 cylinder engine.

     

    Below the head are the valves with their single coil spring (40 mm long), spring seat washer, spring retainer and split collets.

     

    In the forefront are the two manually adjustable rockers (solid lifters) and their 12 shaft.

     

    Rocker pushrods are visible on each side.

     

    Valves and guides

     

    Photo GA

     

    The valves are manufactured in England for Jabiru.

     

    Stem diameter is 7 mm, and head diameters are 33 mm exhaust, 41 mm inlet.

     

    The original valve guides are manufactured from aluminium/bronze, and have an oil hole.

     

    Maximal allowable valve/guide tolerances : inlet 0.10 mm , exhaust 0.12 mm.

     

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    Timing gear and accessories

     

    Rear engine plate

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The rear plate is machined from a light alloy plate. We can make out the trace of the timing gear housing, sealed with Loctite 515, as well as its two positioning dowels.

     

    On the crankshaft end, the 6 tapped holes for the flywheel screws, and the small bore of the pinion indexing pin.

     

    In the forefront, the large 44 tooth camshaft gear, the thinner pinion above is the distributor drive gear (30 teeth).

     

    Near the s/n two timing marks are showing in white.

     

    In the corners, the 4 silent blocks mounting lugs are integral with the rear plate, which also shows the starter motor aperture.

     

    Timing gear

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The gear housing is machined from a light alloy plate. The timing gear lip seal (50×65×8) is pink.

     

    In front of the seal, the 22 tooth timing gear which slips onto the crankshaft end. We can see the 6 screw holes, and the 3 6×24 dowel bores, as well as the indexing pin maintaining the pinion on the crankshaft during assembly.

     

    On each side on the housing, the two pinions (30 teeth) are riveted to the distributor shafts. Behind are the distributor cap mount plates, the left one showing its lip seal (15×24×7).

     

    Flywheel

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The flywheel has 3 assemblies of 3 15×7 rare earth magnets and pole plates, as the the engine has 6 cylinders (engines fires 3 times per revolution) .

     

    In the middle, the alternator rotor has 12 cylindrical magnets, which have attracted some screws.

     

    The internally splined part is the light alloy vacuum pump drive.

     

    Alternator

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The spider stator mount standing on its 4 L-shaped mount blocks.

     

    The black sleeve coming out of the spider protects the alternator leads.

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    12 pole stator on its spider mount. The two ignition coils are screwed to the 4 L-blocks through their pole plates.

     

    Induction manifold

     

    Photo Pete Krotje

     

    The 6 lower induction pipes are inserted into a fully machined two part plenum.

     

    The manifold assembly is attached under the sump at the rear of the engine.

     

    The rubber carburetor coupling is visible on the right.

     

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  5. flying is a addition

     

    Gooday Dave

     

    Well you got the addition. It just gets worse.011_clap.gif.c796ec930025ef6b94efb6b089d30b16.gif

     

    Our club had a open day at Cowra on Sunday Humm, did about 4 hours flying, bit flown out at the moment.

     

    Took up one of our members and flew to his place at Greenforpe and landed on his property in a paddock, then flew around the area and back to Cowra. Then a nother member for practice, and a new member who hadn't flown a Brumby before.

     

    At the end of the day flew out to a mates place near Orange to catch up, intresting strip to land on, up hill and pritty routh. then flew home.

     

    But it was a good day, Weather CAVIC

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick :rotary:

     

     

  6. 'Stakes

     

    Catch 20 rabbit skin into fillits die the meat red over night.

     

    Invite friends around for free meal.

     

    Drink heaps of grog.

     

    Friend won't no the difference.

     

    If they say the meats tough blame the butcher.

     

    Love the rock

     

    Mick 102_wasnt_me.gif.b4992218d6a9d117d3ea68a818d37d57.gif

     

     

  7. curcuts curcuys curcuts

     

    Gooday Dave you can never get enouth! humm. You will get to the stage when you will breeze it on every time, how cool. Remember a good curcut is a good landing.

     

    What are your down wind checks?

     

    Are you in the 160 or the 230 jab?

     

    Have you joined the flying group?

     

    Email me when you have a open day and i will come over for a fly.:thumb_up:

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick:rotary:

     

     

  8. X wind landings

     

    Gooday Dave good to see you flying.

     

    Cross wind landings are cool, lf I have the option i will land x wind, its good practise.

     

    One of the secrets of flying is "you fly the plane" don't let the plane fly you.

     

    If its not doing what you want to fix it.

     

    Are you in the Bathurst flying club?

     

    All the best with your learning 006_laugh.gif.0f7b82c13a0ec29502c5fb56c616f069.gif 024_cool.gif.7a88a3168ebd868f5549631161e2b369.gif 040_nerd.gif.a6a4f823734c8b20ed33654968aaa347.gif :thumb_up:

     

    Mick

     

     

  9. First solo

     

    Ha love learning i have never forgotten my first solo in a jabiru j2 about 8nm fron the' stip 'engine fail ' hum' got it down in a paddock ok, 011_clap.gif.c796ec930025ef6b94efb6b089d30b16.gif never for got whot my instructor said

     

    Aviate, Navagate and don't call a maday its too much paperwork.

     

    Humm it was years ago.

     

    He is not instructing any more.

     

    probly good thing.

     

    Always expect the unexpected

     

    Mick :smooch::smooch::smooch:

     

     

  10. Gooday all i am in the prosess of top end over hall on my jab 3300 humm.

     

    I have a question ? 091_help.gif.c9d9d46309e7eda87084010b3a256229.gif

     

     



     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    Jabiru use a holden piston, the holden motor rotates in the clockwise direction the jabiru rotates in a anty clockwise, thus should mean on a Jabiru the pistion notch on the piston crown should be fitted to the rear.

     

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    Offset is always to the major thrust side of the piston, as the Jabiru motor rotates the oppsite direction the pistion notch should face the rear. 'Not the front' as stated in the manual.

     

    Quote' from Jabiru manual

     

    Note: Arrows on inside of pistons point in direction of rotation. Oil Rings and



     

     

     

     

     

     

    pistons and bore well. Notch on the piston crown faces the Propeller Flange.

     

    When i arsked Jabiru engine shop they told me in short that the thrust is from the propeller on a plane and a car it is from the flywheel and according to them the manal is correct.

     

    I for the thrust is from the power stroke ???

     

    "humm" :hittinghead: I dissagree.

     

    All the reserch i can find states that,

     

    "Most engines today utilize pistons with an offset pin bore. That is, the pin

     

    bore is "moved" a specific distance from the centerline of the piston. In gas

     

    engines the offset is always to the major thrust side of the piston. The

     

    piston thrust side is the part of the piston perpendicular to the pin bore

     

    that carries the majority of side loading during the power stroke.

     

    The primary reason for pin offset is to prevent the piston from slamming into

     

    the cylinder bore after the connecting rod journal passes top dead center.

     

    This problem is referred to as piston slap. The desired scenario for piston

     

    movement is to gently rock from side to side within the bore. This rocking

     

    motion eliminates slap. "

     

    by Hunter Betts

     

    Can any one else shed some light on this question.gif.c2f6860684cbd9834a97934921df4bcb.gif

     

    Thanks Mick

     

     

  11. Corvair

     

    Gooday John there is a bloke in Victoria who is running the Corvir enging in a aircraft and he is quite knowledgeable. I will forward his email address and he should be able to help you.

     

    Happy Flying 040_nerd.gif.a6a4f823734c8b20ed33654968aaa347.gif

     

    Mick

     

     

  12. Love learning

     

    Gooday Dave

     

    Gee good weather we have had this week. Have you been flying?

     

    Hows the flying going?

     

    Dose your instructor give you home work?

     

    Its realy good to prepare for the lesson this will help with learning, ask what your going to do next lesson then study for it. 040_nerd.gif.a6a4f823734c8b20ed33654968aaa347.gif

     

    How many hours have you logged up?

     

    Its realy good to her how you are going. 011_clap.gif.c796ec930025ef6b94efb6b089d30b16.gif

     

    Thanks Mick

     

     

  13. Training how cool

     

    Gooday Dave

     

    God I enjoy the learning and gess what you never stop learning. yep how cool.

     

    Tell us about your preflight what do you check?

     

    How do you find your instructor?

     

    What do you like about the jab?

     

    Which theory books do you use?

     

    Are you having trouble with anything?

     

    You can get a lot of infomation from this forums there are heaps of people who can help.

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick:clap:

     

     

  14. Still getting infomation

     

    Thanks every body for your replies But is there some one out there who has the rotec system fitted to there plane and are you happy with it.:hittinghead:

     

    Thanks Mick

     

     

  15. Gooday

     

    Gooday Dave 098_welcome.gif.81ff07d492568199326e4f64f78d7bc6.gif

     

    Its good to see more people learning to fly, the only problem is the addiction 'humm'

     

    Good see you learning at Bathurst, what a good part of the world.

     

    let us now how the training is going. :rotary:

     

    Yours in flying

     

    Mick

     

     

  16. planes Planes planes

     

    Gooday lexman

     

    If your going to travel around AUS perhaps a J200 Jabiru, heeps of room in the rear for gear and still in wait envalope, good cruse speed 120 kts '2 miles a minut'. Good all round aeroplane. Aus made big plus.

     

    That would be my secand choice of planes. :thumb_up:

     

    Why do you want folding wings? What ever you decide make shore you hire one or find somewone with one and go on a trip before you buy one.

     

    A test flight is not enouth time. 049_sad.gif.af5e5c0993af131d9c5bfe880fbbc2a0.gif

     

    Have you started flying yet:rotary:

     

    Bathurst or Orange is a good place to learn they Both have RPT. And there training area is close by. 106_score_009.gif.17e848c1c38015657a6bc3c8116ef6cb.gif

     

    Catch up soon

     

    Mick

     

     

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