On 03/06/2023 at 11:54 PM, shafs64 said:

wanted to ask can you only private hire from a flying school or can you hire and aircraft from anyone?

 

Thanks

To me, this question is simpler than the responses might indicate. To me there are two questions being asked here:

1. Can you only private hire from a flying school?

2. Can you hire an aircraft from anyone? 

Question 1: Because the question contains the word "only", the implication is that all other means are not possible. Therefore the answer has to be "No". There are other means, which the second part addresses.

Question 2: Because the question contains the word "anyone", then that trows open the hangar doors of flying schools, aero clubs and kind hearted souls. Therefore the answer is "Yes"

Following from the "Yes" answer to Question 2 comes the supplementary question: "What are the conditions that you must meet to hire from "anyone?". There are very many conditions, the main ones being proof of ability to pilot an aircraft; proof of familiarity with the particular aircraft (including currency), and next, implementation of a system for the owner of the aircraft to recover the costs of accidental damage to the plane, passengers and the public (that's the insurance bit). 

Obviously an agreement has to be met to deal with the operating costs of the aircraft from the fuel being used for the flight, through an allocation towards scheduled maintenance, and then the overheads.

What ever happened to Flight Service Units? There was one at Dubbo when I was a young bloke. 

The FSUs seemed to be able to handle briefing, flight plan acceptance and flight monitoring. 

1 hour ago, RFguy said:

Problem at Cowra can be no taxiway to runway threshold,

If you look at the majority of airports in rural areas, you will find that those essential taxiways don't exist.  

5 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

an purchase fire rated (marine grade) artificial "felts"/ non directional weave,

Can you get that in "shag pile". Oh for the return of the Sandman!

3 hours ago, Chris_LSZO said:

I look for a house about 1h-1.5h away.

Plane + location of home = Camden/Wollondilly areas. To meet the 1.5 hours max travel you will have to use the train from Campbelltown or Leppington. Whatever you do, don't use the freeways. They are parking lots during peak hour and if ever there is a collision, you can't get off them. There are plenty of alternate routes to get you where the freeways finally get you.

1 hour ago, Roundsounds said:

Once the pilot has gained their RPC they can no longer operate in CTA, more CASA logic in place. 

I knew that there had to be some unsound illogic at play. 

The question, Chris, is what sort of environment do you love in now? I don't mean the weather, but do you live in a city, small town or village? Where you live now will have a big effect on where you move to. If you are a city person, you will probably want to see what things that make up a city lifestyle are most important to you. The same argument applies to small towns and villages.

If you enjoy anything with a taste of Culture, keep out of Sydney and look at Melbourne. Sydney has a wonderful opera house, but it is mainly used as a backdrop for tourists' photographs of the Harbour Bridge. How important is making a living going to be for you? Does your need to earn an income affect where you do it? 

I would suggest that if you want to live near Sydney that you explore the Southern Highlands between Mittagong and Canberra.

1 hour ago, turboplanner said:

The aircraft also has to be compliant.

Of course. I was simply wondering about the pilot.

9 hours ago, Roundsounds said:

you must keep your Part 61 PPL medical and AFR current to exercise the privileges on an RAA RPC in controlled airspace.

So, basically you have to be a dual  aviation citizen?

9 hours ago, Roundsounds said:

A pilot holding only RAA quals can happily operate from Camden when the tower is closed, but not when it’s active. That implies it’s safer to operate when the tower is shut?

Yep, at 160001 the skies above Camden miraculously are swept of all dangers until 075959 the following day.

There are schools at Bankstown that train with RAA aircraft. Does that mean that a student on first solo has the RAA RPC qualification?

11 hours ago, Chris_LSZO said:

I'll immigrate to Australia/Sydney and for sure I'll take my baby with me 🙂

 

Chris

Then you would do well to consider if moving to any one of our capitol cities is really essential for you to support yourself and those who come with you. A lot of people are relocating away from the major cities and relying on the Internet for professional work, or if they have a service business, re-establishing in small towns where rents for premises are so much less than in the metropolitan areas. 

I know of a specialist motor vehicle restorer who move everything from Sydney to a country town. His speciality did not require his business to be located in a city, and he says that the move was a really good thing for his family. He told me that his daughter who is in her final years of Secondary education says that she is doing so much better than she was in the city. 

I was wondering. If I have a full Part 61 PPL, it means I can fly in controlled airspace. If I switched to an RAA certificate, would that Part 61 approval carry over?

1 hour ago, Chris_LSZO said:

For me this wouldn't be a option...

 

Chris

Ask yourself this question: "How much use will I get from the aircraft during the period that my main reason for being in Sydney exists?" Is it going to be worth the hassle of bringing your aircraft into Australia? Perhaps it might be a better economical proposition to examine hiring. 

11 hours ago, spacesailor said:

I,very often noticed the clouds moving in a circular pattern over the city .

Could the rising heat , from the city,  be making the rising air revolve, like the " bath water " gurgling down the plug-hole .

spacesailor

The heat produced by urbanisation is one of the main contributors to micro-climate change in the Sydney Basin. Twenty years ago, most of the land west of the line of Cowpasture Road/Windsor Road was open space. Admittedly cleared of native forest in the 19th Century, but well grass covered. Since 2000 vat swaths of that land have been covered with roads and dwellings. In the main, those dwellings are of brick, and the style has been to have grey-coloured rooves, not the lighter terracotta of the older parts of Sydney. These materials act as heat banks, warming during the daytime and radiating heat at night. 

I used to slope-soar RC gliders off the southwest-facing hill near Camden back in the early 2000's. X marks the spot.

The winds would pass over cleared paddocks. Now look at what has happened to those paddocks. I reckon that on a warm day, a glider would rise like a homesick angel late for harp practice due to the heating of the air caused by those heat banks below.

The observation that the clouds were circulating could be explained as a type of willy-willy, but more extensive in area than we associate with a willy-willy. Both are the result of rapidly rising air. 

1 hour ago, skippydiesel said:

Ahhh! - future pollution.

Actually, although the air circulation pattern is a fact, I'm pretty sure that the facts were used by anti-airport campaigners to push a completely different agenda. I found that material years ago. In fact, if you look at the design of the website you will see that it is very early 21st Century DIY style.

4 hours ago, skippydiesel said:

OME whats with the climate downer on The Oaks?

Not a downer. That air circulation pattern is natural. It's only been with the growth of Sydney and suburbs to the south of the Parramatta River that nasty stuff has been brought into the northern part of the Wollondilly Shire. The residential development in the northeastern corner of the Camden Shire has introduced more pollution, mainly from private vehicles since there is inadequate public transport. 

That link I posted was to a site that was discussing the effects on air pollution possibly arising when Nancy Bird Walton Airport becomes operational.

1 hour ago, skippydiesel said:

Its factual correct that wind can carry all sorts of materials a very long way BUT highly unlikely to have any practical implications for this location. 

The biggest problem from airborne material at The Oaks is the pollution from the areas of Sydney to the northeast of the airport. There is a natural air circulation pattern that brings pollutants to The Oaks.

Look at this:

13 hours ago, onetrack said:

Sydney weather is at its worst in the Summer months,

I think that when discussing the weather of a particular locality, it is best the heed the words of those who actually live (lived) there. Skippy lives within 5 kms of The Oaks, and I lived and worked for thirty years within 15 kms of it.

Unless there is a Low Pressure cell in the Tasman Sea south of Wollongong, the prevailing winds are from the southwest in the morning, with the nor'easter arriving about 3:00 pm. If there are thunderstorms, they tend to split into two before reaching The Oaks. One side drifts down the Nepean River to Penrith, and the other down the Georges River to Bankstown. The storms that you hear of doing a lot of damage are the ones that go down the Nepean and link up with the ones coming over from Katoomba.  As a result, that southwestern rim of the Sydney Basin is pretty much in a rain shadow. The rain coming from a more easterly direction off the coast usually stops at the Georges River, roughly in a line from Bankstown Airport to Wedderburn. So it doesn't get to The Oaks.

Solar radiation is going to be a problem anywhere. 

2 minutes ago, turboplanner said:

There's a thread on it

I'll go look.

I just heard the bushfire weather prediction for this coming winter. It's gunna be dry, so I wouldn't be worrying about WerriBerri Creek bursting its banks,

A lot of the aircraft parked at The Oaks simply have a weatherproof cover over them.

Methinks Chris is mistaken about the severity of Sydney Basin winters. For a Swiss, the weather would be considered balmy.

48 minutes ago, spacesailor said:

It Is an ' iniquitous ' rule that targets ( seemingly)  one aircraft

Spacey,

You haven't told us what the rule is. I would have thought that high wing loading would be the killer. Is 5.3 kg/sq m  a high wing loading?

Ah! If wishes were wing'ed horses, buggers like me would fly.

 Lexicographer's Alert.

Spacey wrote, that innocuous " wing loading rule 

Spacey, you've chosen the wrong word for to describe that rule as it applies to the Hummel Bird. Innocuous means "not harmful or offensive". The word you really wanted was iniquitous which means "grossly unfair and morally wrong".

12 hours ago, spacesailor said:

grounded by that innocuous " wing loading rule

What exactly are the figures used in that rule?  

According to the published specs, for the Hummel Bird's  18 ft (5.5 m) wingspan with wing area of 57.2 sq ft ( and Gross weight of 550 lbs (250 kg), it has a wing loading of 9.6 lbs/sq ft (5.3 kg/sq m)

9 minutes ago, facthunter said:

A VH Gazelle was 73.000 dollars

What's the price with a comma as a separator?

My go to fastener supplier for non-aviation spec stuff is www.bolt.com.au at Smeaton Grange, which is near Camden NSW

They list an M22 x.15 locknut for $7.80 Part No BLNMF22x1.5

There is a store in Dandenong. 

I was watching some recent video reports of aircraft trade shows in England (Popham ?). I was amazed at the number of different manufacturers and the equipment levels in even the basic trainers - and the prices. The cheapest I heard was 80K Euros for a trainer.

I was also interested to hear that diesel engines, running on Avjet were commonly used, as was a BMW motorcycle conversion. The aircraft using them seem to be coming from the Eastern European countries. Rotax, of course was well represented, and there was reference to Lycoming, but not Continental.

Also often commented on was the 600 kg approval. What does tha mean in terms of the lighter end of the market?

WSell, It's your money.