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It,s not the country of origin of the vehicle you have to worry about. Anyone flown into Mangalore lately ?

My name's not Danza

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I nearly hit a deer last night, big rack, just out of Newstead. Maybe I can sue the sporting shooters for allowing it live and present a hazard on our roads.

You are flogging a dead horse here, turbo. Let's get back to the thread where most flying under the auspice of RAA not only don't want to support the organisation that keeps them in the air but are also too tight to pay for their associations magazine.

I Speak from first hand knowledge not an urbanite fed with anecdotal and media rubbish

But you can be a member of the Sporting Shooters Association of Australia and receive 11 excellent magazines per year for around $ 90 and you as a member are covered for $20 million liabilty insurance when shooting.

Not a valid comparison given that SSAA is a virtual political party

Reality check !! I bet there is a heap of you pilots and armchair aviators who subscribe or buy other aviation magazines. So why the banging on about Sport Pilot. It is a by product of RAA not its sole purpose for existance.

As I stated previously - you can't even buy a membership to your local pub darts association for the price of a membership to RAA. If you are now finding aviation too expensive either trade the Audi in on a Kia or give it away.

Feel free to apply the same comparison to local, state and federal government. Thank god RA's deficit isn,t anywhere near that of Australia's.

I use a MGL Enigma panel and had to ditch the polarised sunnies as I couldn't read it

Frank there are very few things in life that I take too seriously. In fact I don't even take myself to seriously.Safety however is one of those very few things.[/QUOT

 

At the end of the day everyone is responsible for their own safety ! Education not legislation is the key.

 

Down here in Vic we are drowning in draconian laws, policing and mechanical safety devices in order to keep the road toll down, however we still hand out licences with no human factors or vehicle control training.

 

We have dumbed the population down to a sub cretin level yet expect them apply skill and intelligence when in control of a vehicle.

Frank, you appear to fit that genre as well as I'm sure shafs64 is perfectly capable of defending his own position on this particular thread

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I can't attest for the 3 axis crashes, but when it comes to the 2 axis I understand that majority were HGFA registered

I don't think Dick Smith would see himself as a hero. One of those words which appears to be loosely used by the media these days. Maybe the words businessman, entrepenour , adventurer, visionary or proud aussie may be more apt. Think back to those other two "heroes" from the Beaconsfield mine accident in Tas. They were victims who survived not heroes as the Media would have us believe.

If you are interested in seeing how well an electronic Aviation magazine can work take the time to visit the App Store and download a free copy of Trike Mag. It is aimed at the trike, microlight segment and contains tech, safety, touring and biographic articles. It is a true electronic mag, easy to access and read also containing video and pod casts. Published here in Australia by "Toucan" Peter from Moruya.

Well worth a look.

You are definitely an ideas man Gandalph. I've been busting to mount a 50 cal on my trike

I still don't get what all the fuss is about ( except for a need to decide on a reliable and expedient way in which to get the digital version out to members ). A magazine or newsletter is the byproduct of a viable and dynamic association or club, NOT the other way round. As for the cost to us members it is not an issue just so long as the financial decisions taken by the Board ensure the future viability of RAA and in turn us members.

From what I can glean from this forum many of you will be soon hanging up your pilots helmet and picking up the bowls. I can assure you that membership fees at your local bowls club will be more than what you currently pay to the RAA

Gee Sue I thought we had it bad. Even though we have satellite Andy is right, bloody woeful at peak times.

Our copper also went in the ground when Alexander Bell was a lad and every farmer in the road has dug it up a couple of times since so the ADSL electrons can't make it from the exchange.

Av8or

If you have no access to ADSL and poor wireless you then have the option of govt subsidised satellite broadband.

Currently not as fast as the other two but is fairly reliable

I'm not suggesting anything just making an observation.What one looks forward to is not always that which one gets and I have absolutely no intention putting any motion before the Board.

I don't really care how much the membership fee is or what the magazine costs I only care in matters of fairness and the retention of something tangible.

 

It's so nice to see that you feel that our association magazine is in the same category as toilet reading material because I think that most of the members feel that it is usually a good read not mater where you choose to read it.

 

Obviously you haven't got the maturity to appreciate the difference between the real thing and a placebo which exactly is what a digital book or publication is.

 

I really feel sorry for our next generation not being able to savour the feel of real paper in their hands.

 

I suppose you will advocate for the introduction at some time digital toilet paper, that will be most interesting I must say.

If we as members need to pay more in fees to guarantee the viability of our organisation then so be it. Compared to other interest, sporting and Motorsport organisations we get off cheap.

Given the fact that the majority of aviators in this country are aged over sixty it's no wonder that there is such resistance to move away from print media. If you need something to read in the dunny buy the Weekly Times.

Just had my renewal come through - fast and efficient. RAA is to be commended as having been a member of many associations and clubs prior to discovering aviation I can assure you that RAA is way above most of them.

I struggle to understand the wingers, grizzles and naysayers who continue to bang on regarding rego, license and magazine costs as what we get for our money is exceptional. Think about it when you next pay your motor vehicle rego.

Another thread in this forum is the tragic death of two wonderful people who crashed their trike at Glen Innes.

The aircraft was fitted with a BRS but for whatever reason it was not deployed.

Mandating a mechanical solution is not the answer. I think Alf is on the right track

I think the pilots who consistently fly smart and safe, do thorough preflight and fly disciplined just keep doing what your doingAll all others who don't how about you start as it can and does happen to not only someone else

That might keep the fatal accidents to a minimum

 

There is a risk in every day life so to survive a life time requires a minimal exposure & some luck

 

We all end up dead in the end but some sooner than they expected by their own choice of actions

make ballistic parachutes compulsory for all RAA aircraft, save a few more lives.

Give it a rest !

Steve maybe you would have been better off posting your critique of wings elsewhere in the forum.

I believe the funerals for the pilot and his passenger are being held this week.