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New report quotes them as turning an ELT on but it doesn't seem to have done its job. It would be interesting to know why.

Did they activate a beacon ?

We were so poor that as kids if we didn't wake up with an erection we had nothing to play with all day !

Retailers not keeping stock, DRIVES people to the internet.They become simply a order and pick up point, with a sizable mark up.

I was chasing Shell Ultra motorcycle oil and called a few local shell stockists from the Shell "locator" guide online.

 

None had it, but could order it in....... Just ordered it off the net myself......Yeah, it may not be something that "moves" but not even one container?

 

Retail shopping is convenience shopping and a higher price is expected, but they do themselves no favours by not keeping stock. It defies the whole point of retail.

 

Old school retail businesses think they're smart by not keeping stock (dead money) but are oblivious to the consequences.

By old school do you mean a business that has a shop front rather than an online presence only ?

Well isn't that interesting. Just about every ad for every retail business spruiks that they provide all three.And BTW, we customers have as many horror stories about retailers as you do about customers. The difference is, we CAN shop elsewhere if we're badly treated and we DO. It's the golden rule, He with the gold, makes the rules and as customers, we're the ones with the gold.

The point I was trying to make is that if you as a customer want good service and a quality product expect to PAY for it. Or you can buy a cheap product, good quality but little or no service. That because the low price doesn't allow the seller enough margin to provide it. So, if you don't expect any after sales service, go for it !

Stop seeing the retailer as an enemy to be taken down . Another OLD chestnut is "business is only good business if it's good for both parties"

Unless the retailer is a complete moron they all strive for repeat business as it's easier and less costly to retain a customer than to find a new one !

Some of my experiences with retail customers -

Customer 1. "My gizmo didn't come with a ops manual and I can't believe that you don't carry them."

"Where did you purchase the unit from sir, perhaps they can assist"

"That's why I'm here, I bought it online from Zambia"

Customer 2. " I didn't want to pay your price so I bought it online"

Same customer a week later " just wondering if you have any jobs going as my son has just finished year 12 and is looking for work"

Customer 3 "I have this brand new unit which has the wrong software for this region can you upgrade it.

It's new so why should I pay to have it upgraded"

"Where did you purchase it sir"

"Online from the U.S. They said any dealer over here will upgrade it FOC"

Customer 4. "Thanks for spending the last hour of your time explaining the operation to me, however I can

another outlet in Melbourne $7 cheaper"

So, Marty and Riley if you wonder why I'm bitter and twisted......

PS, Riley, I'm a bit taken back by your "love and kisses". I don't know you. Maybe we should date a bit before taking the next step.

Cheers to all

Then you my good friend, with your many years in retail sales/marketing and your bald-faced statement that "you are the type of customer that we don't want" can rightfully claim your small share of responsibility for the economic woe that the country is currently experiencing. Being an old-fashioned fart who requires quality, service and fair pricing in all manner of dispensing my money, I generally (tho not always) achieve all three. And finally, with regards to Aldi, to my knowledge we don't have any in WA therefore your snide jibe has been wasted. Love & kisses and have a nice day.

Just r ember this when you are trying to screw down some struggling Aussie retailer.

Needing a replacement element for my Bracket air filter I went to their web page, obtained the contact details of their local authorized stockist/agent and then made an enquiry as to availibility and price. Was informed by the Perth agent that, (a) yes it was in local stocks (b) over-the-counter price was US$ 14.51 (converted) and © they wouldn't sell it to me because I didn't have an account with them ... cash or credit card won't cut it .... "no account - no sale"! I then phoned another local aviation supply house noted for their high 'convenience' prices and was quoted (US$) 13.78 for the same item! As a comparison, this filter element is listed by A/C Spruce at (US$) 7.95 (+ S&H). Now I have to ask, with examples like this, is it wonder that the Australian economy is suffering? I have written a letter to both the Mg Dr's of Bracket in the USA and Avia (Aust Agent) querying both the curious pricing anomolies and the more curious marketing strategy of "yes we have it but we won't sell it to you" Will I get a response? I shake my head.

Just as a guess, do you shop Aldi.

Service, Quality, Price. - pick 2 because you can't have all three !!!

Petty crims ? Attempt murder, just wondering what level of crime you would class as serious.

Haven't you seen Underbelly. Anyway, not our problem now as they were last seen heading your way.

Who said it is still doing it?I said it was doing a grid search in North East Victoria (most likely just used to scan a small area with heavy terrain) it would have finished that and gone back to were it was borrowed from by now.

 

VICPOL don't own drones but NSW police have been trialling them for a year now and as there involved in the search it could be operated by them.

 

The Federal Police also operate long range drones.

 

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/nsw-police-to-trial-unmanned-drones-20141205-121bal.html

I think it's getting a bit fanciful now. Won't be long and ASIO will be on the job.

Given that they don't know where these guys are I hope this top secret military drone has plenty of endurance.

I do happen to know the huge cost of keeping these things in the air so is not a cost effective way of searching for a couple of petty crims

The person I heard this from works in a "specialised field" and they have never been wrong in the past.But.... they could be wrong, but I doubt it as they know what there on about.

Sorry to disappoint, that was me up for a LAF yesterday. The only drone flying up this way takes aerials for real estate.

BTW, the police "have had them surrounded" T least 6 times this week. I suspect they have no real idea where these two are. Probably out of practice when it comes to catching crooks as most of their time is spent writing infringement notices

I also meant that we would still be able to maintain our aircraft like we still do now. Nothing changes apart from CASA simply issuing a " sports pilots licence". SAAA members can service their aircraft as long as they built it and do the maintenace course.The RAA imo is past its use by date. I am only a member because I have to be and we are paying through the nose for it and we dont even get a magazine anymore. My yearly Sporting shooters membership renewal turned up today and it only costs me $87 per year to be a member AND I get a excellent glossy monthly magazine .

I dont read the online version and if I miss out on something important, so be it.

 

PS- Going by the photos of the RAA staff wearing those hi viz vests in that propaganda photo shoot, they look like they have plenty of time and money to eat.

Apart from the clout provided by a large political organisation in lobbying the authorities so we can keep our firearms

I certainly appreciate the extra link between CASA and me, I don't mind paying my yearly dues for the exemptions that I get to fly under. IMHO if we lost Raa we would lose a lot of our freedoms very quickly. Just look at CASAs attempt at a drivers medical.

Minimum inspection cost is around $12000 plus whatever work is required. I know it's a safety issue but you can buy a Sh.t load of magazines for that money. Once Cessna is done look out Piper.

I too feel fortunate to fly under the RAA and let them deal with the governing body

Yup, that is a risk I am willing to take. I like level playing fields and we don't have one at the moment. RPC holders have to pay money yearly in registration fees and membership fees while others flying GA registered aircraft do not.

And I can guarantee you that if we came under CASA's umbrella our overall cost of flying would increase with us ending up subsidising GA

If your quick you can catch up with Bull who was also on the last stage out of town. Judging from your avatar you fly trikes so why not jump to HGFA that way you can give them a pasting as well !

Sorry, Andy, I was responding to The friendly ghost not you. You don't tend to bang on

Kasper I know as fact that you are absolutely wrong about non paper members subsidising paper members.Happy to discuss with you if you want via email or mobile 0414962648

 

Andy

I gave you a funny DZ but only because you just proved your lack of understanding about real motorcycles. But life in general is good when we canlaugh at ourselves first.I understand about you other bike riders need to stop every hour or two for lattes etc whilst we wing rider just continue on making miles.

Hold on a minute, there ARE some nice humans in Wilcannia and I spoke to one yesterday. His name is Bill Elliott and he is a pilot. Bill has the unenviable task of promoting tourism in the Wilcannia district. "If only you had called me, I would have brought the ute out". He knew exactly what we had run into when we landed and that there were a number of businesses in the town which made the task of promoting tourism hard.

He is a great bloke, his details can be found on the Wilcannia Tourism web site

A word of warning for pilots heading Outback and planning on a stop at Wilcannia for fuel.

As part of our plan we landed at Wilcannia last week to fuel up before heading for White Cliffs.

The Evector Harmony landed first and The pilot phoned the local BP to enquire about fuel. He was advised that Avgas is only sold by the drum and anyway they don't have any, so the availability of Mogas was the fall back and would it be possible to arrange to have some brought out to the strip or could we get a lift into town.

It was made very clear that we were prepared to pay for any service provided. "Mate, we are not a bloody taxi service" was the reply. I was the pilot of the second aircraft and managed to get a lift into town thanks to a friendly council worker who was mowing the strip, because without fuel I was going no where.

Arriving at the BP with a jerry I attempted to fill from the bowser only to have the nozzle snatched from me by the owners son and told to "f.ck off, you're the bastards from out at the strip"

Fortunately there is one other servo in Wilcannia all be it with only 91, so that is what I filled with.

So be warned that if you are unfortunate enough to land here country hospitality is sadly lacking

PS. If you think it may just be us, the towns of Ivanhoe and Hillston went out of their way to help us fuel up. One nice bloke even loaned us his ute.

Interestingly the NRMA is now bribing their members to vote in board elections with a chance to win a new car.You'd get 10,000 votes in RAA board elections if you could win a plane!

There would be more whining than a pommy diff. !

Has anybody praying at night actually had " the voice" speak back to them?

I just had a look at google, they clearly need a taxiway to 03. Its fairly substantial runway, surprising that it does not already exist. 1600m (have not checked ersa btw) is a long backtrack!I have one instructor that insists that you cannot be on an runway when a plane is taking off (class G) but my understanding is that you can be on the runway, you just cant takeoff until the separation minima is met. Maybe I need to review the CAR's, because I often enter a runway to backtrack as soon as the departing plane has passed the holding point (I stress this is all in class G).

I would make any, and all, calls that you feel keep you safe and others aware of your presence/intentions. If they say you make too many, tell therm your life is worth more than their opinions..