nickduncs84

OK, I may be dumb, but Where did technology and innovation create jobs?Lets start a list of what occupations have gone South since technology arrived.

 

The humble ticket writer that every big supermarket had went.

 

Tech Drawing is a thing of the past.

 

Machinists not needed as we have lathes that you just mount the billet, press go, and walk away.

 

Even the humble Garbo is down to 1 man per truck

Go to Silicon Valley. A few jobs there. Denver. NYC. Austin. Quite a few here in Australia too. At the end of the day, all I'm saying is that this thread sounds like nothing more than a bunch of old timers complaining about how much better things were 'back in the day'. Technology isn't going anywhere. Companies aren't going to not adopt it if it's going to save them labour costs.

 

 

Nothing to do with "believing", they are verifiable facts.Anyone who is over 50 knows how many people were on the dole in the 80's and how many are on welfare benefits of one type or another now or only part time work without the need to refer to any numbers, especially those in country areas.

 

The investments into themselves by other countries are just fact, undeniable and researchable facts. I'm also living it in China where I am being supported by Government, allowing me to develop and employ.

 

Living 20 years ago? As far as I can see there is little that was required 20 years ago that isn't still required today, and in another 20 years time, stuff that needs to be manufacturer'd, from cars to dinner plates, so I have no idea what you're on about there.

Your last paragraph is missing the point by so much. Are you saying that technology hasn't created jobs and industries? You know there was a time before cars existed too. I'm sure some people used to think they weren't needed back then and that they should just focus on trains and....dinner plates for

 

 

Sorry Nic, just because some overseas country funds the hell out of their industries and keeps their workers on the poverty line does not mean that we should do the same. Bex is correct with his figures. If the level playing feild was actually level, and the govt was serious about keeping industry in this country and no appeasing the pockets of shareholders at the expense of tghe australian people then maybe we could survive. Globalisation is a very good excuse for maximising profits at the expense of people. Unfortunately people dont seem to matter any more, its all about profits etc.

depends on which way you look at it. it's not quite as simple as you're making it out to be. how many people are invested in these profit hungry companies via shares, super, pension funds, etc. And I'm not arguing that the high wages is a bad thing. Quite the opposite. I'm just saying that some people need to accept that globalisation is happening whether they like it or not and you're better off focusing on what you can control than moping around hoping for some sort of miracle that's going to wind the clock back 20 years.

 

 

Wages have very little to do with costs in mass production. GMH made public their Thailand Vs Oz findings some 10 years back and it made a Commodore only some $1300 more retail to be made in Oz (when they were about $34K).

 

 

No it's not. The Gov twist the hell out of figures and now include part time, something as ridiculous as 4 hours per week, those in various funded training and even some who are being schooled as being employed. Add in moving school leaving age from year 9 or 10, to year 12 as mandatory.

 

"Statistics, statistics and damn lies" as the saying goes.

 

"The Australia Bureau of Statistics revealed that its measure of “extended labour force under-utilisation” — this includes “discouraged” jobseekers, the “underemployed” and those who want to start work within a month, but cannot begin immediately — was 13.1 percent in August 2012, in contrast to the “official,” and far more widely reported, unemployment rate of five percent at the time".

 

Works well for America, China and Germany, just as 3 examples, who also happen to be the 3 World's strongest economies.

 

Better you give a 100 million loan than 100 million to social security benefits - that's what's not sustainable.

 

What "new industries"?

Bex, if you honestly believe what you're saying then I can't help you. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for it not to be true, but the fact is we can't be a manufacturing country with the wages and unions that we have and expect to compete with other countries. As for the questions of what new industries, well I hope that's a joke because believe it or not, there have been a few new things pop up over the last 50 years. . My industry didn't exist in the 80's for one example. Web engineers, designers, etc. There are plenty of examples where the government could have made more of an effort to embracing new technology and gearing us up for the next 50 years rather than pouring money into dying businesses to try and delay the inevitable.

 

 

Biggest shame is more jobs gone, ford Holden Toyota, what is next, all of us workers and tax payers current and past are paying for a new generation of unemployed morons with no ability to comprehend having a job and helping Australia, just how many kids they can pop out to prevent work and get tattoos to remember when it runs out to have another. (by the way people who cannot have a go are my pet hate). We keep losing people who were trying, to this bank greed, red tape and stupidly high cost of operating for business with not much return for actual hours worked-mine are up to 80hrs some weeks as are many other self operators I know.

Listen I hate to be the one that has to go against the grain, but from my view, these kind of statement are pretty silly. First of all, the whole fallacy of 'a new generation of unemployed morons is ridiculous. Unemployment now is very similar to what it was in the early 80's. The decline of manufacturing in this country certainly hasn't doomed our labour market. At the end of the day, whether we are talking about running a business or running an economy, to a certain extent it would be a lot easier if nothing ever changed and we could just keep doing what we are used to. The reality is that obviously things do change. We can't expect to be a manufacturing country and expect all of our workers to be paid $100 an hour, yet for some reason some people do. They are the ones left holding the bag when the inevitable happens. In the long run, obviously to expect the government to bail out an entire industry isn't sustainable. The issue isn't that we need to resurrect manufacturing, it's that the Government has taken far too long to embrace new industries and that's why we are currently in a very precarious position. If they put more effort into getting young people into growing industries rather than dying ones, we wouldn't have much to worry about.

 

 

PM me if you do Nick and we could catch up.

Absolutely! Will do.

 

 

Possibly! My bird is in for her annual in Lincoln at the moment. If it's ready by the weekend I'm planning on heading over and picking it up at the same time. Not looking liklely but possible!

 

 

Must have decent STOL performance! Would love to come and have a look one day!

Let me know when you're around. I'm overseas at the moment but back next Friday. Hopefully all the weather would have passed by then!

 

 

Nice work!I'll have a look next time I'm on the road.

 

What do you fly?

A bearhawk with big ole bushwheels :)

 

 

I do that drive every day & have never noticed! On the paechtown side of the freeway?

On mount barker road, about 1.5km past Beerenberg. It's at the Hahndorf Farm Barn if you're familiar with that. As you come around the windy section after the dog kennels you will see it on the right.

 

 

Cheers for the reply Nick. Where is your strip?I've bought an RF5B Sperber. It's a 17 metre span touring motorglider, but the wings fold inboard of the ailerons so it does t take up as much room as you'd think.

I'm between Hahndorf and Mount Barker. You can't miss it if you're driving from Hahndorf to Mount Barker. On the right hand side of the road on a hill. It's not really a strip. Just a 200m paddock on a hill!

 

 

give the neighbours a bottle of scotch and a bottle of sweet sherry every Xmas, Nickthe'll eventually weaken and think that noisy thing you fly in ............. is bloody marvellous

haha I'm not too sure about that. I'm not too worried anyway. The council already looked into all the legalities looking for a way to shut me down and found nothing. I also usually fly during the week when people are at work, so can't imagine they would hear me more than a handful of times a year for a matter of a few seconds. I think a few of them freaked out when they first saw me but have now realised that it's not a big deal.

 

 

Hi All,I'm in the process of buying an aeroplane and would like to hangar in the Adelaide Hills somewhere - not really too fussy where.

 

Anyone got any leads? Thanks for reading!

 

Cheers - Nick.

What are you buying? I have just built a home for my plane, but it's really only bush plane suitable. Also neighbours are a bit precious. I did hear rumours that the guy who owns woodside is interested in building (or letting others) build a few more hangars now that Aerotech are leaving. I'd be interested in investigating that with you if it's true. ie splitting the cost of either renting or building one. I looked into Callington but had no luck. So really Woodside is about the only decent option. Everything else is about 40 minutes away (Murray bridge, Rollos, Aldinga)

 

 

Hi Schmacko, I'm interested as well. Otherwise, does anyone know of any hangarage available around the Adelaide Hills?Cheers - Nick.

I ended up building my own machinery shed at my place in Hahndord! What are you flying?

 

 

Nice, I was going to buy one of theseStratus™ 2S ADS-B Receiver for iPad

Yeah that's the fancy one! Got a couple of cool extra features I think?? I think it may hook up with AvPlan to provide synthetic vision??

 

 

Just one of those Rasberry Pi Wifi things. Open Flight Solutions

 

 

I've flown over some pretty darn remote places with OzR and have found very few black spots. Even in the middle of dingo woop woop. A recent trip from QLD to Adelaide for example I had service pretty much the whole way. I've flown over the Grampians a couple of times and never noticed a lost signal. I've got an ADSB receiver as well which works great. It's not meant to replace your eyes, but as an aid it's a big help. I was flying out of Narromine once and about 10 miles out I hadn't yet heard any calls from traffic in the area. On OzR I saw a big long line of fox bats coming straight at me. Made it easy to spot as we got closer knowing they were there. It ain't perfect, but neither is expecting everyone to see everyone else and use their radio as they are supposed to. Every little bit helps.

 

 

I reckon the key is to just have thought about it before you take off. Lot's of factors may sway you one way or another. Rough paddocks, small wheels, RV type with a canopy, no power lines, no cars and I'd go the road for sure. Alaska bush wheels, nice green paddocks, etc and I wouldn't even be looking at a road. There were times in the Mooney when I was flying over tiger country where I had decided that a lake or reservoir was the best option. crack the door, keep the gear up and I'd much prefer that over crashing into 50ft trees at 60 knots. We are lucky in Aus in that there isn't much to do on long cross countries besides looking out the window. It's good habit to get into to always think about where you would go as you transition through different types of terrain.

 

 

Nick, I found it to be a bit 'clunky' but that's to be expected in the early stages of product development. In my situation with giving advice to potential customers I avoid products that have not had the test of time & are produced by very small single owner outfits. My advice has always been to NOT buy until one is fully ready to install/use - who wants to spend hard earned dollars & be the R&D bunny for them ?

Thanks Jake. That's what I thought. The demo they gave me didn't really work, but I still found it interesting, especially as I think they are going to make the project open source?? They also alluded to the fact that it was always going to be the case that the owner would have to be the type that likes fiddling with things as it takes a lot of customisation to get right. To me that seems to be asking too much for most so not sure how they are going to go commercially. I think one thing that might happen if it truely is open source is that experimental avionics techs might create a bit of a market in supplying and supporting the installations. A long way to come, but with the price of avionics being what it is, it's an interesting development. Homebuilt avionics rather than avionics for homebuilts!

 

 

Yep I am here. What an awesome event. Jealous of what they have here! Highlight for me was watching the mass arrivals from next to the runway on Sunday arvo. Coupled with ATV audio it was a sight to see. Airliners landing on the same runway at the same time as an RV and an Ultralight. 6 straight hours of pure madness. It was even more hectic than normal I'm told because weather restricted arrivals Saturday arvo and Sunday morning.

 

Jake, did you see xfs.aero? If so what did you think? Seems a little under developed but looks to have awesome potential to the untrained eye! Would be interested in your thoughts.

 

 

Awesome! Ive just got one for home from instrument choice which seems to be working well but no cameras. I need one for kangaroo island and this looks perfect. How much for one with 2 cameras?

 

 

These are awesome! Are they solar/3G?

 

 

I'm in Hahndorf. Elizabeth is a good area for flying. Parafield and Gawler close by. Nothing up here in the way of airports!

 

 

Welcome mate. Where in Adelaide are you?

 

 

A general question about using private land for operating my Savannah. Specifically in the Adelaide area. Are there restrictions or what you do on your land is your business.Next question is does this change if I have one or two other friends use it as well.

 

Lyndon

Where is your property Lyndon? I have my Bearhawk at my place in the hills. My paddock fails every single ALA requirement. Plenty safe for a Bearhawk or Savannah though.