Guest rocketdriver Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 After a long break .... Hi everyone! I have taken on a project at the Australian National Aviation Museum (Moorabbin Air Museum) to bring one of the Gypsy Queen 30 series engines back to life ..... does any one have, or know someone who has, manuals for these engines to donate please .... Cheers Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Found this on the net. May be useful. http://www.sicuropublishing.com/servlet/the-Download-Engines-Manuals-cln-De-Havilland-Engines/Categories rgmwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I'll follow that up! ... cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 What is it fitted to. A Dove? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Hi Nev ... Came out of a Heron previously owned by Airlines of Tasmania .... cheers Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Same engine (I think) let me know if you have no luck. Do you want to get it to flying condition? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yes, I too think it is the same engine and no, not to flying. We want to ground run one for display to the visitors....... I was foolish enough to say that I thought aeroplanes and engines should be operated whenever possible as well as displayed static (controversial in the museum community I know) and so I got the job! No luck so far ..... (I don't suppose any of the Moorabin museum a/c will ever fly again, but you never know I guess ..... even the outdoor ones would be in better condition than some of the resurrected PNG a/c .....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maj Millard Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Last saw a couple of Gipsy Queens exposed in a Dove at Redcliff....huge mothers , what horsepower we talking here ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 It is good to operate them but unless you warm them up fully it does not help an engine to be just started up. It is a bit of an art to look after a running motor. I agree about museum engines. Static exhibits are DEAD. Do you have a complete aeroplane to work on? Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Hi Nev ... This is the first move for the museum in this direction, I think, so first off, we plan to get one of the engines runable on a stand for demos. Agree that running engines need to be looked after and run properly ..... It sounds as if you could be of real assistance with this project, and if you feel so inclined, we would really appreciate your particiption! The Heron is here, parked outside and with cowlings to suit the later conversion to Lycomings (I think) ...There are other engines including radials of various sorts and sizes and some have matching airframes ... the problem will be space if we want to run one in an airframe .... but who knows what the future will bring?! .... I would like to see more ACTION (as you say, static exhibits are dead), but there is a long chain of things that have to be made to happen before that can occur ...... including money! (and manuals!!) (as always!!) Cheers Martin PS if anyone reading this is interested in joining a very laid back group of people working together to maintain and improve one of the largest Aviation museums in Australia, you can PM me to discuss, or join directly, see www.aarg.com.au Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Last saw a couple of Gipsy Queens exposed in a Dove at Redcliff....huge mothers , what horsepower we talking here ? Hi Maj .... The gypsy queen 30 you would have seen in the Dove would be rated at 240 hp and weighs around 220 kg. ... just the thing to give your Lightwing a bit of a surprise! (and convert it to a heavywing!!) The later supercharged and geared GQ70 developed up to 280Kw (375 HP). TheGQ series of engines are developments of the Gypsy six that powered the Comet Racer that won the air race to Melbourne in the 30's .... Cheers M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Checking on this. The 30 engine will be from the Heron only. Any Doves I know of have the supercharged gypsy Queens, Different designations with at least two possibilities. My sources will only be from Doves. Connellan based at Alice springs operated Herons as did Airlines of Tasmania . Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Hadn't realised there was a difference between the engines of the Dove and Heron ..... just assumed they were the same ..... proof once more of what you make of yourself when you assume! .... Had a look at the engines for the first time yesterday (they are currently not easily accessed) and can confirm that they are Gipsy Queen series 30 mk 2 engines ... (well, one is, two of the others have engine plates that don't specify the engine type, just give the serial no.,and ratings and one has lost its data plate .... but they all look identical to the casual eye .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well they are simpler, but I'm less likely to get repair data for it. Don't rush to dismantle it. I presume it won't turn over. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No rush .... need to line up a few ducks first, including the manuals ..... As far as I know they have not been turned over since we got them ..... they are said to have been overhauled and inhibited but there is no paper work, so who knows .... I thought it would be better to wait before we did anything .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rocketdriver Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Hi RGMA and Facthunter ..... I have now downloaded the manuals you pointed me to, rgma, and TKU for that! Now for some serious homework! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgmwa Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Good luck! Sounds like a challenging project. Looking forward to seeing the progress reports. rgmwa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
facthunter Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 If the inhibiting has been done well you might have an easy run with these. Might have to get to Moorabbin one day soon. Nev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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