EVA Air Boeing 747-45EM taking off from runway 36L at Amsterdam Schiphol

[john roe]

I have checked the source, and this is a real pic shot. read on..

 

EVA Air Boeing 747-45EM taking off from runway 36L at Amsterdam Schiphol , Netherlands . The great timing and angle just makes this shot, and the size of the 747, look surreal. The distance to the fence was 145 meters (475ft). This is an amazing picture of a disaster that didn't happen. From the smallest airplane to the largest, weight & balance calculations are a critical part of flight safety. From the looks of this 747, the weight was within the CG

 

envelope, but if they'd have added one more 'marshmallow' to each snack tray, this BIRD might not have cleared the fence !!!! Now that's what I call a close one.

 

 

cheers john

 

 

[Uncle Chop Chop]

WOW!!!!!! Great shot.

 

 

[Guest scott fletcher]

then theres this one

 

http://www2.airliners.net/photo/British-Airways/Boeing-747-436/0630681/

 

 

[willedoo]

and the infamous St. Maartins, Princess Juliana International. Plane spotters mecca.

 

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[Guest David C]

Mmmm ..not so sure about that EVA 747-400 shot ... First of all , there is a lot of image compression due to the long focal length lens used , so the aircraft appears a lot closer to the fence that it actually is , secondly , I know Amsterdam reasonably well having photographed there , and I cannot place that spot at all . The take off point of 36L is miles away from anywhere and is completely flat with no trees , so what about the trees in the shot ? .. It does appear to be the Netherlands though , if the car rego plates are anything to go by ... Still a great shot though ... Where did you get it from John ?

 

Dave C

 

 

[john roe]

HI David, One of my Nasa friends sent it, i found a forum some where the other day and many were for, than against that it was true, many of the for, that live there, and outlined, technical facts that it was true ? who knows with todays doctoring of pics and computers, etc.

 

cheers john

 

 

[Guest David C]

That's right John .. it is very diffcult to tell whether a shot is as it was taken or "doctored " in any way .. As I said before though , still a great shot and thanks again .

 

Dave C

 

 

[FulcrumDB1]

That's right John .. it is very diffcult to tell whether a shot is as it was taken or "doctored " in any way .. As I said before though , still a great shot and thanks again .Dave C

Absolutely right Dave. It looked wonky to me but its real.

The thing that confused me most was the accompanying "dramatic" text which appeared to indicate that the aircraft had rotated at the very last minute just barely avoiding disaster. This was a load of crap, as I will show you shortly.

 

The other confusing elements were visual. Immediately behind the rotating aircraft we see a line of mature trees. Assuming by the text that the picture was taken at the end of 36L (approach for 18R), I just could not explain the trees.

 

The only place where a mature tree line could appear is the crop of trees on the left of the runway about where the third exit is located.

 

There are no trees anywhere near either end of runway 36L/18R.

 

So this led to a lot of checking using both Google maps and Google Earth (using the "flying" mode) + some web searching.

 

What a surprise to find that the original image was actually taken by a photographer who is one of my contacts on FLICKR.

 

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As per his explanation....

 

This picture was taken in the weekend that air traffic at Amsterdam airport suffered many delays. The reasons were technical problems in the Air-Traffic-Control system and weather. When I went to the airport I hoped to make photo’s of weird looking cross-wind landings on runway 06 and sun-lighted aircraft in front of dark skies. I got what I wanted. Before going home I paid a “visit” to runway 36L. At the “Ijweg”road. I knew when using enough tele-mm’s this place can result in interesting pictures. Although I was “disappointed” about the position of the sun I gave it a try. I prepared a fast shutter speed using iso 400. Fortunately a 747 was taking off. The rotation point was early, and the runway was still wet. I like the result. But never expected to reach the most-interesting-of -7-days and I realize it may take a long time to make another shot like this one. I put the photographers-place on the flick-map. And a little secret revealed: the horizontal distance between the fence and the 747-wing is 145 meters.

 

So here is a pictorial explanation of my analysis. VR indicates the point at which the aircraft rotated, which is absolutely nominal for a loaded 747. That bit about "disaster averted", "CG envelope" etc. is pure rubbish!

 

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Cheers!

 

FulcrumDB1

 

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[Guest David C]

Thanks FulcrumDB1 .. Your explanation and photo explained it all .. That really looks like a great photography location when 18R/36L is in use at AMS . I have landed on 18R and gee , what a long taxi to the terminal complex ... took almost as long in taxying than the entire flight from Birmingham !!.. It also appears that the EVA 747 in question used about 1900M for its take off roll , indicating it was probably lightly loaded .. Thanks for posting ..

 

Dave C

 

 

[FulcrumDB1]

Thanks FulcrumDB1 .. Your explanation and photo explained it all .. That really looks like a great photography location when 18R/36L is in use at AMS . I have landed on 18R and gee , what a long taxi to the terminal complex ... took almost as long in taxying than the entire flight from Birmingham !!.. It also appears that the EVA 747 in question used about 1900M for its take off roll , indicating it was probably lightly loaded .. Thanks for posting ..Dave C

My pleasure Dave.. Wish you a Happy New Year for 2012 and many many happy landings! Cheers! Daraious