Rob Easther Posted May 16, 2008 Share Posted May 16, 2008 I have a vague memory of information on the site about this but can't find it so, wondering what people do about providing some uv protection for the wings and fuselage on aircraft like my X-Air? 303-uv-protectant is a product I've found on the internet which sounds easy to use and not too toxic. Something water based would be good? Then someone suggested I use a water based clear paint from the hardware shop if such a product exists. Advice anyone please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordy Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 Hey Rob , Give Wayne Fisher of Spectrum Aviation a ring on 02 66224466. He deals mainly with Drifters but has all the guff on Dacron care,wear and tear regards ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aircraft1 Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 It has been found from OS experience that your best just keeping your dacron clean, a lot of the coverings can/will allow the fabric to rot underneath. Be cautious and seek advise from the RAA because i understand they have a negative outlook on UV protection for dacron. Also see the X-Air support site for more information, cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocko Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 I looked into all this a while back, too. The 303 stuff Wayne sells works fine. I bought it off him for my old Xair Hanuman. Not that cheap, but it goes a long way. What you have to be very careful tho, is in humid climates, it can cause mildew on your fabric. This can apparently be removed by, of all things, baby bottle sanitiser (according to the Xair Forums), but is still a bitch to remove. Use the wrong stuff, and you'll kill your fabric. I had considered proper polyurethane clear coat, but clear coat isn't recommended for the Xair Dacron, according to Michael Coates. Use house paint, and you'll probably do nasty things to yourself, since you have no idea how it can effect the dacron. Remember, it can add several KG to your empty weight. Scotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Rocko Posted May 17, 2008 Share Posted May 17, 2008 If You want a lot more Xair specific information on this, go to the Yahoo Groups Xair forum pages. This topic has been gone over dozens of times, in great detail, by members at one time or another. Well worth joining up for aircraft specific information. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft/ You need to join up to access, but Michael is the moderator. Ain't hard. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Easther Posted May 17, 2008 Author Share Posted May 17, 2008 Many thanks to Jordi, aircraft 1 and Rocko for your advice, very helpful. Will contact Wayne Fisher to discuss and also join X-Air Users group. Regards, Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TOSGcentral Posted May 18, 2008 Share Posted May 18, 2008 ArmorAll has been used for many years on Dacron skins. I use it and so do many members of TOSG. There have been no reported problems with it and it is easily available from automotive shops. I doubt that it does a great deal for UV protection in our environment – maybe a little. But it does have considerable benefits in other departments. The principle one is that it slicks the skins and (in the case of a two seater Thruster) will add 150 fpm to climb rate and a vast improvement on glide. The skins become much easier to keep clean. For older aircraft where there is a lot of life left in the skins but they have become faded and start looking a bit daggy – this product restores colour, then retains the colour, to close to original. The following illustration is of a T300 I renovated and deliberately only did half of one wing and allowed it to dry to use as an example. And no, sorry, you cannot get ArmorAll from myself or TOSG but any automotive store will have a stock. Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Easther Posted May 19, 2008 Author Share Posted May 19, 2008 Thanks Tony, I had heard about Amorall and it loks like the way to go...my skins can certainly do with a bit of sprucing up and the fact is the aircraft is not in the sun for long periods. I haven't heard from Michael Coates yet re X-Air's specifically and might see what he has to say also. Thanks again. Regards Rob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenn Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 We have a Drifter here which has been sprayed with the Stits paint. It still looks good after many years and the dacron is protected, but you cannot remove the skins without breaking up the paint finish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newairly Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 Can ArmorAll be used over dope, such as Randolph? Is there any advantage and does it prevent repairs from sticking? Phil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TOSGcentral Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Phil - I cannot answer your question about dope but you bring up a good point that I should have mentioned. You have to be damn sure you have your aircraft appearance the way you want it BEFORE applying the ArmorAll (Rego Numbers etc). Once the ArmorAll is on nothing will stick to it and it is incredibly hard to get off again. You can certainly stitch to it for Dacron repairs etc and then ArmorAll the patch but I have never used it on anything but Dacron so cannot comment further Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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