Keith Page

That is correct Frank, we must have an understand the principals of navigation.

When the only form of navigation was compass, paper, rulers, slide rulers and protractors not one person would have dreamt of what we have now.

Think of what we have now, what will be next? That is what I was trying to say move along with the digital age. Technology moves too fast for the law makers they have to catch up and embrace it with new laws which will encompass it. They can not stay asleep as the boat is floating along.

KP

The digital age is here, so we have to embrace it. News papers come on tablet from.

EVEN the RAAus mag has a digital version.

With that said CASA, the school's manual of standards and all other relevant bodies must reflect the presents and use of the digital equipment.

So the teaching and the use of this equipment must be in the school curriculum. See digital age is here.

KP.

Well said RobT..

I think the electronic way is out of the depths of some of the law makers and some of the old instructors hence they are shoving the electronic way under the carpet.

But alas there are young people out and about creating waves, "Good to see."

KP

PPL training must be done per the school's Ops Manual; CASA requires commercial ops to include use of EFBs in their Ops Manual - if not included then not approved at your school (I am not aware of any schools at Moorabbin which have EFBs approved for PPL students) and you would need paper stuff - I suggest that you ask your instructor.I also suggest a read of the CAAP on EFBs.

 

Note also that approval of EFBs is for provision of maps etc only, not their GPS function so maintain that distinction always in your mind.

 

PS: I recommend AvPlan.

A lot of the commercial fellows have moved to the glass cockpit, they are moving on so must the schools.

KP

I definitely support the idea of not using ozrunways until after getting your CPL, although I have to be honest I don’t think it will save any money with the cost of charts, ERSA etc these days

Yes hard maps must be taught and understood. Also how to use these electronic flying tools, if the subject if not taught the instructors would be derelict in their duty of teaching. The way society is going. The student also has to be taught how the electronic navigation fits into the flying because bad faults will creep in if the student self learns.

Who is to teach the subject of electronic navigation?

KP

The tracking and location feature, is so special.

You can have your friends track your journey, just give them your access.

You have a map record of your previous trips. The other point schools can check on your navigation exercises.

Regards,

KP

I forgot to mention - have the latest IPad as OzRunways is engineered to work with the IPad, by having the latest IPad the IPad will be able to cope longer with the OzRunway upgrades.

Other tablets will have short comings and not operate as well, sorry android people.

Buy direct from OzRunways this way you will avoid the commission paid to the app store..

KP

So next month I am returning to Melbourne to do nav and then get my PPL for further training. Do you guys recommend buying the Private VFR plan for OzRunways this stage or should I leave it until sometime later? Thanks

I say get it now and practise with it as there are a lot of special features that can not be found anywhere.. (Learn to use and understand them).

One of the features I have in mind is Windytv, practise with that.

The other good information there are tutorials/videos out regarding how to use the system.

KP

I always said when I heard the proposal RAAA were putting in that it would all be too hard for the dodgers at CASA. As with all govt departments they can only do one small thing at a time as that one thing takes 1000 public servants to counterjump and dodge and pass on to someone else because no one want to put their name to any decision...This is why you need the KISS principle when dealing with public servants...one thing at a time because its all to easy for them to say its all too hard

KP

I had to mention 760kg to have it as the common language of the weight increase.

Maintenance will be the same as what RAAus enjoys at the moment.

KP

Wondering why everyone is stuck on 750kg when 760kg will cover the extras, see the Cessna's are 757kg.

Go to 760kg this will cover the discrepancies.

KP

While the debate goes on -- the 750kg should be 760kg. The 760kg will cover a few extras yes it is 10kg but that will cover those extras.

As for the crowd who want 1500kg and CTA, let them whistle Dixie. They have forgotten what RAAus is all about.

KP

There's no ban Keith; go back to Post #80.........the one before yours.

Still I think it is rot playing around with legislation for 2strokes.

Some of the nation's industry was started with 2strokes. What is so irritating the experts go and ban something however the replacement has a larger carbon foot print during manufacture. Sort that one out.

KP.

I haven't got many details but apparently our federal Parliament yesterday passed legislation to ban two stroke engines, including lawnmowers, whipper snippers, off road vehicles etc.As ultralights and self launching gliders are "off road vehicles" I can see trouble ahead.

Does anyone believe these idiots won't include them in the ban, all in the name of the green delusion.?

The 2stroke ban will have a large impact.

Tell you the pollies are not smart. What about those very big ships a lot of them are 2stroke and they are the most efficient utilisers of fuel.

KP

Every one is on control surfaces and the reactions, I think power could be added into the equations.

With power there is a complete change of dynamics, you know the old saying, "If you develop enough power a brick will fly".

KP

No sign of the current CASA agreement on the website - is there one? If not, why is RAAus doing CASA's job?

KP

The other one which is getting scarce is a scratch built or from plans at home building.

KP

yes I would say we all love the bling of flash aircraft. I just found out that the aircraft I am just about to start flying is cheaper dual then the aircraft I was flying at the solo rate

If one wants learn in a Drifter that will be big battle to find a school which teaches in such an aircraft.

One of the big problems these day the inexpensive aircraft are disappearing. Thrusters, Drifters the 2stroke Lightwings these are getting scarce.

KP

Looks like the problem is such a large capital investment in an aircraft, I see on this thread a school hires its Lightwing at $150 per hour.

A number of schools have a $150k aircraft..... do your sums as to what the interest and redemption will be. Then do the exercise on a $30k aircraft.

To me it would be better with the little war horse instead of the fancy expensive thing.

KP

We need to get the various representative organisations to work together to sort out this ridiculous situation!

KP

Like I've mentioned before, I can't believe that with 10,000 members we don't have more political powers like EAA in the US. We should be telling these elected officials what WE require not the other way around.

KP.

Boy, I had a bit of a chuckle there Keith. Have you ever been guilty of not giving a straight answer?

The other important point -- Pauline is working hard for aviation in Australia -- Pauline needs some help, not hindrance like on this forum.

Hope that answers all for you happyflyer..

KP

F_T you must be a politian you have not answered the question.

You gave a diatribe that is not an answer, has to be a name. e.g. Malcolm Turnbull or Sarah Hanson-Young.

The burden of the question is:- "Who" get that answered and you will be on the road to being a bit honourable.

KP

More political comment - doesn't anyone respect the rules of this site ?

KP