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Posts posted by corvairkr
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I have been giving this some more thought .Head office have gone from a totally logical common sense workable approach to a potential safety and legal minefield which i think needs to be addressed ,probably a little over dramatic but something worth considering .
We have reverted from being able to obtain further training post pilot certificate to none at all in "19" rego aircraft (unless built by the owner) with no explanation as to why.I would like to think the decision came down from above and was not the interpretation of a single RAA staffer as they are meant to be trying to find avenues to make it easier and safer for all of us not harder.
So endorsements aside, if a new pilot or any pilot for that matter buys a second hand "19" rego aircraft and its a new type for them and they want to do the right thing and stack the odds in their favor by getting some dual time with an experienced pilot ....they cant.
We have this idiotic state of affairs where the instructor cant do it because its "19" rego.
So what about plan B and find an experienced pilot to ride shotgun? To the letter of the law wouldn't they then be deemed to be masquerading as an instructor and what would the ramifications be if you rolled the aircraft up in a ball ? in Ga land it would be near enough to instructing for a type endorsement and i wouldn't think it would be to hard for a litigious party to build a case if they so wanted.
If a trained professional instructor is willing to jump in an "19" rego aircraft and instruct whether it was built by the owner or not surely that is up to them and RAA should be moving heaven and earth to make it possible .
So what are the other options to legally transition safely into second hand "19" aircraft ?
Jason
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Not sure mate i don't think so,ill PM you his details.Have you sold this machine yet?Jason
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Hi All,
I'm having a discussion with RAA head office regarding the interpretation of CAO 95.55 section 6 and what aircraft can be used for training.I have recently bought an Xair i hold a pilot certificate and was hoping to do my cross country endorsement in it.Not a massive drama if i cant ill just use the school aircraft it just would have worked out a bit cheaper.
My interpretation as was Lee Ungermann's when he was operations manager is that you must do your initial training in a factory built "24" rego aircraft to PILOT CERTIFICATE level UNLESS you built the aircraft yourself or were part of a group of builders in which case you could start from scratch in your "19" rego aircraft.
Then once you had gained your pilot certificate future endorsements could be completed in your "19" rego aircraft whether you built it or not, as long as your instructor was prepared to train you in it.
The current administration say all training must be in a Factory built unless built by the owner, including future endorsements.
Below the the CAO 6.1 (a) (ii) states only a PILOT CERTIFICATE and no additional endorsements are to be conducted in a factory built aircraft.
6.1 The exemptions given by subsection 3, in relation to an aeroplane to which this Order applies, are subject to the following general conditions:
(a) the aeroplane must not be used for any purpose other than:
(i) private operations including glider towing but not aerial application operations; or
(ii) if the aeroplane has been wholly built and assembled by a commercial manufacturer — flying training to enable a person to obtain a pilot certificate;
6.2 In spite of sub-subparagraph 6.1 (a) (ii), if a person has wholly built or assembled an aeroplane to which this Order applies, or a group of persons has wholly built or assembled such an aeroplane, then that person, or each of those persons, may use the aeroplane for their personal flying training.
So what are your interpretations? can a pilot certificate holder gain their cross country endorsement in their own "19" rego aircraft ?
Jason
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Howdy Steve..
jason
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Ahh good stuff Bruce there is a fair amount of timber work in a Minimax.Great, thanks guys. Seems hoop pine could be the way to go, but I'll need to do some brief calcs to see what sort of weight penalty that implies. I might go with spruce if your supplier is reasonable though Scotty. Jason, did you have to personally select your hoop pine from Pacific Boatcraft, or were you able to order wood of suitable quality (grain runout, knot free, etc) just by telling them what you needed? I'm planning to build a MiniMax. But before I can do that, I need to build a good size shed - present one is way too cramped. So for the past 6 weeks I've been preparing a 6x6 metre base - levelling site, digging footings, then laying hardcore from the creek bed. 5 cubic metres of concrete booked for Tuesday, flatpack shed already here.THEN I can start getting down to some proper work. I can seal the floor & insulate the shed while I'm waiting for timber deliveries. Oh, and make the workbench, etc. Long process, this aircraft building. . .
I didn't select my timber personally but there are a couple of ways you can go,you can pretty much hand them a cutting list and have them cut all the timber to the specs you require which is the more expensive alternative OR you can slip down to Bunnings and buy a thicknesser and table saw and just order lengths of boards and just rip and plane your timber as you need it.
I Generally buy 19 x 116 x 5ooomm boards and the only downside to buying the larger stock i have come across are some minor blemishes but its excellent quality.
Jason
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Hi Chris,Hey Maj, can you give a reference to that incident? As you can see from my avatar this is the plane I have an interest in. i have never heard of a vertical fin issue although CASA did in the past add a requirement for attach points for the rudder.ChrisIt was Bobby Muse's old plane.
http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/brief.aspx?ev_id=20110309X21618&key=1
http://www.n56ml.com/kbobbym.html
Jason
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You will have no problem bending hoop pine than any other suitable aircraft timber Bruce and if you do make a mistake your back pocket will be much happier forking out for more Hoop than Spruce i'll bet:thumb up: .What do you plan on building?Thanks for your replies.I looked into hoop pine, seems it's good for longerons but not suitable for bending. So I guess I'll follow Scotty's lead & try ordering direct from AS&S in the States. Thanks Scotty.Bruce
Jason
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Hi Bruce,
I haven't imported any timber but i would imagine it would be a nightmare.I'm currently building a kr2-s and im using hoop pine from boatcraft pacific in Brisbane its very similar to douglas fir and is a fraction of the price of spruce.
Jason
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Here you go gents,this looks like fun.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTM8rcA7c04
jason
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Hi Emah,Hi Seb,What sort of drifter do you have? I can let you know prices based on whether you need a full or partial set.Im currently shifting operation locations, but will be able to help if you require new skins.
Feel free to contact me via mobile also, its 0430 207 783
Kind regards,
Emah.
Do you only manufacture Drifter skins? I will be needing a set for an X-air standard in the not to distant future,can you help with these also?
jason.
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Thanks Graeme i'll pass on the info much appreciated
regards
jason
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Hi All,
A mate of mine has this ppc on his cattle station near Townsville,It was previously owned by his uncle who received ppc Training and then bought this contraption he flew it once in gusty weather and nearly parked it in a tree and that was the end of his ppc flying career.
It got packed up and parked in the hangar and hasn't been touched since.Can anybody provide any details on the type? its also for sale if anybody is interested in making an offer.
jason
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For those working on your passenger endo here's a good brief
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=249869395150053&set=vb.101670060006938&type=2&theater
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Congrats Mothra
jason
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I thought the same thing but look closely i think you will find he has a passengerHey Scott,Also handheld filming your landing at about 3.00.. probably not the best during an important phase of flight.Great video as usual....
Jason
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Because CASA says soBecause???http://www.casa.gov.au/wcmswr/_assets/main/pilots/download/nta_poster.pdf
jason
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Good Onya Doug top stuff !
jason
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Fantastic video MrH thanks for sharing:thumb up:
jason
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Hi Marck,
Have you seen the tutorial section under resources on this site http://www.recreationalflying.com/tutorials/
Jason
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You could try "Nong" in Wagga.......post #23 at the below link
http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/flight-training-now-gladstone.58764/page-2
jason
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These points above are exactly what was drummed into me..I see many pilots and students looking inside the turn, chasing the runway onto final- in doing so they fail to maintain a constant bank angle, tightening up the turn as you say, or skid it with rudder or lose the correct horizon reference attitude(airspeed) any one of these will contribute to bringing you closer to the stall; and clearly at a very dangerous point in the circuit!Correct turning vigilence is one of my hobby horses, and "dirty" unco-ordinated turns show poor piloting. This may be a contributor IMHO.The turn will finish when it finishes- forcing it can be fatal.
I also have this video saved on the computer which i often watch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwrfEsCiltc
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Here you go Boingk, i think he is down your way to.Hi there guys, just wondering about paragliders and gliding in general.I suppose its a fairly basic question, but who regulates the paragliding in AUstralia? Is it the HGFA?How do you even go about getting a paragliding licence, if there is one?
-boingk
http://www.recreationalflying.com/threads/peter-bowyer.58587/
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Will do Maj
Jason
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Hi All,
Have you got plans for Easter weekend?? Or you just didn't want to travel too far or maybe you do??
How about you come on over to Starke Field at Woodstock (Townsville). There is plenty of room to camp under wing, tents etc.. and shower/toilet facilities are available.
No need to worry about dinner on Saturday night the snags will be on the BBQ and then Sunday morning the bacon will be sizzling.
It will be great to meet new people and maybe some of you will get to see some familiar faces that you haven't seen for awhile.
So what do you say?? Come on... See you then
For more information or if you are planning on attending please contact Steve O'Donnell at [email protected]
Starke Field runway 33 - 15 800 mtrs long
Jason
interpretation of CAO 95.55 (Training Aircraft)
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