biggles

Er, Do you mean ' spelt ' ? ?Bob

Alan.

As one 'old bloke' to another , who obviously has nothing better to do than waste time on this forum. I really think that ' spollen '

would be more appropriate .

Bob

Er, Do you mean ' spelt ' ? ?

Bob

Good one Dave

Bob

Nice looking plane B-A!

Yeah , it's a Jabiru 160 S

 

Bob

 

If you use a wig-wag system, only one light is on (effectively) at a time. That should comply with Jabiru's wishes.

My J160 uses about 30ml an hour.

At 350 hours , mine uses around 50 ml/hr

Bob

Please explain !

Pud

Yeah I will Pud , but I know what you mean .

Bob

Yep, definitely a Jabiru - it's got a white tail.

I think you may be right Mick. Take a look at this ......... a Jabiru wheel !

Bob

Antics ????!!................have no idea what you are reffering to Pud......................................................Maj...

Please explain !

Maybe Jabiru powered ? or is it too small for a Jabiru powerplant?

Bob

G,day,My name is Peter Bayne. Married with 2 grownup daughters and 5 grandchildren. All boys. I live in Babinda just south of

Kitfox is hangered at Frank Arri's property (Farri),

 

Peter.

Bob

Apparently I may have offended some of the Jabiru fraternity, that was not my intention. I copied from the Yahoo 7 site, none of it are my own words except the thread title.Regards Bill

Bob

A pilot has walked away from an ultra-light plane crash near Bairnsdale in eastern Victoria, escaping just before the plane burst into flames.Police say the single seater home-made aircraft, called a Jabiru, was flying low over farmland when it lost power about 1.00pm.

 

The pilot realised he was not going to make it over some nearby powerlines, so he tried to fly under them.

 

The plane got caught on an optical cable, causing it to crash.

 

The pilot managed to escape the wreckage with only a scratch on his arm.

The aircraft was definitely not a Jabiru . Have not positively identified the a/c yet , but the vision clearly showed the burnt remains of a metal framed fuselage .

Bob

Sorry Bob but that's not the case in a Wi Fi only IPad. It does not have 3G nore does it have a GPS. Tis is the reason for my advice to teacher to a phone. If you have a 3G iPhone (seems you do) then yes you have a GPS and you will move on the OzRunways map. A WiFi iPad will not do this (no GPS).... The reason we teapot her to a phone or use 3G has little to do with navigation... It allows us to get Internet for live weather, NOTAMS and map download if we did no do it before departing. Internet or 3G will give us faster Gps at start up only as it allows the IPad to get a rough location of where you are using phone towers. It then knows satellite locations based on that information and will speed up satellite lock ins.. This is what is called assisted GPS.. There has been lots of misunderstanding for some reason in regards to how iPads and thier Gps and network options are... This subject has been covered at some of the OzRunways Seminars and can be read about on thier website... I hope this info is helpful to others that are looking at an IPad option. Several options a greatly different price points. For me I mainly wanted an IPad for OzRunways so my above option was the most cost effective way of doing what is need....

 

Regards

 

Mardy[/quote

 

Mardy ,

 

Read my post # 3 .

 

Bob

 

Sorry Bob but that's not the case in a Wi Fi only IPad. It does not have 3G nore does it have a GPS. Tis is the reason for my advice to teacher to a phone. If you have a 3G iPhone (seems you do) then yes you have a GPS and you will move on the OzRunways map. A WiFi iPad will not do this (no GPS).... The reason we teapot her to a phone or use 3G has little to do with navigation... It allows us to get Internet for live weather, NOTAMS and map download if we did no do it before departing. Internet or 3G will give us faster Gps at start up only as it allows the IPad to get a rough location of where you are using phone towers. It then knows satellite locations based on that information and will speed up satellite lock ins.. This is what is called assisted GPS.. There has been lots of misunderstanding for some reason in regards to how iPads and thier Gps and network options are... This subject has been covered at some of the OzRunways Seminars and can be read about on thier website... I hope this info is helpful to others that are looking at an IPad option. Several options a greatly different price points. For me I mainly wanted an IPad for OzRunways so my above option was the most cost effective way of doing what is need....

 

Regards

 

Mardy

Hi Gents/Tomo, I'm planning a trip next weekend out west near Cunnamulla, from Caboolture, where is the best place to refuel, avgas?[/quote

 

Cunnamulla has Avgas with credit card facility

Bob...So you have got the hang of using it now I guess?

 

 

-Linda

I am going to put my tight **** point on this one.... If you are wanting to save some money and are getting an iPad for your flying then this is what I did......Purchase a second hand IPad 1 WiFi only (no 3G) on E-bay for about $250. Then purchase an external GPS for the iPad from $45 to $100 ,, I purchased the Tom Tom at $45. I then use my phone or IPhone and tether it to my iPad for live Internet on my current phone plan.. All works really really well for under $300.. Also keep in mind that having a separate GPS will allow you iPad to last a lot longer on its batts.....

 

If you purchase an IPad with 3G and WiFi you will need an additional phone account for your iPad (more cost). If you choose to use a pre paid plan the Internet is charged at a really really high rate. The IPad will cost lots more and really do nothing better in terms of running OzRunways.. Oh and the batter will go flat in no time and you will need to always run it from power in the plane...

 

I get 12 hours running between charges on my external GPS and the iPad runs all day just with WiFi running to talk to my phones Internet. As my phone is an IPhone I also have a copy of OzRunways running in that also as a backup...

 

I also run a Garmin GPS196 as a third backup just in case my compass gets James and I am not able to use the old outdated method of Navigation.......Oh look out here come the rocks and stones LOL

 

Mardy's view

Bob

Hmm i can see another RAAus endo coming soon to be deemed proficiant for tecky stuff like this.

One other question can u flight plan with oz runways

Bob

thinking of getting an ipad. And will be useing it when i fly. what i need to know is how the map systems work ? is it like GPS or does it work off phone towersAnd do you need a particular version of the ipad.

 

thanks

Bob

G'Day Frank ,

Look forward to many pics from you and Maj.

We have 11o C here at 1000 hrs with a 16 kt. Westerly , giving an apparent temp of around 7o C . Hope Maj. arrived safely . Would imagine any fog around Townsville would soon burn off , and the Sou'easterly should give him a reasonable tailwind .

Regards to all from both of us

Bob

[ATTACH=full]18701[/ATTACH] Looks like an add for Jabiru but it just happened that way.

Bob

Hi Motzartmerv,Yes 1800 hrs is very good.

 

That is not the whole story though. At about 500 hours the engine needed a new crankcase (fretting issue). These were supplied without charge by Jabiru under warranty (I didnt buy the aircraft from them - It had about 80 hours on it when I bought it). So the engine actually has now 2300 hours from new and 1800 hours since the new crank case (which included new bearings and new rings).

 

This is all the the maintenance log so if the Guiness book of records want proof they can have it!

 

I do think I have been lucky as I have heard all the horror stories BUT I personnally have had a really good run with Jabiru products over a lot of years.

, That certainly is extraordinary service from the little Jab 2200.I assume the engine is in the J160 , but could you tell us what a bit more about the type of flying is the aircraft normally used for - eg. Short/long trips , type of oil used ,oil consumption , cruise CHT's / EGT's , etc.

Bob

It gives me the ***** to hear bagging of Jabiru engines, especially from folks who are not qualified or do not have the data to support their claims. I OWN a Jabiru and it has never missed a beat. I.

Bob

I was at William Creek a few years ago now and had a few drinks with a big, tall stretch of a guy who was working for the National Parks people in the area. He had previously been a squatter in SW Qld and had lots of hours up in Bonanzas and the like.He told me about one of his neighbours, an older guy who spent nearly his whole life on his station, only occasionally venturing to one of the nearer towns for essentials in his old A36. The neighbour also did a lot of his own mustering in a C172 and was therefore an accomplished pilot although a tad rusty on procedures in CTA.

 

The old guy decided he would go to Brisbane, the big smoke, for a well-earned holiday; the first in some 20 years. And, of course, he decided to fly there in the Bonanza.

 

As he was getting close to his destination, and remembering he needed clearance to enter CTA for Archerfield, he gave an entry call to the tower: "A r c h e r f i e l d t o w e r --- A B C ---

 

a --- B o n a n z a ---- F e r n v a l e ---- 2 5 0 0 --- I n b o u n d --- R e q u e s t --- C l e a r a n c e".

 

The busy, young and very proficient guy in the tower responded at a rate of 120 words a minute with clearance details.

 

The old guy didn't get a word of it other than his call sign. "A r c h e r f i e l d --- t o w e r --- A B C --- S a y --- a g a i n"

 

Zpptttt! The young guy in the tower repeated his instructions.

 

The old guy called again

 

"A r c h e r f i e l d --- t o w e r --- A B C --- D o - y o u - h e a r - h o w - s l o w - I - s p e a k - ,

 

-s o n n e y ?"

 

"Yes" replied the now somewhat perplexed young controller.

 

W e l l --- T h a t ' s - h o w s l o w - I - h e a r - , - t o o !!!

 

I understand he got his clearance, stayed not much more than a day and headed home again. I also gather he had no trouble with the departure clearances.

 

kaz

Interesting that Kaz . I had a similar experience a few months ago transitting around/below Townsville airspace . Out of courtesy , I called up the tower to advise that I was a non transponder equipped , RAAus aircraft , located then, between Bluewater Park and South Pinnacle , tracking between Restricted airspace to the West and Controlled airspace to the East , at 2500 , bound for Charters Towers via Starke Field . He then gave a 'jet jockey' reply to which I barely understood , and asked him to repeat . His second attempt was no better , and I decided I had more important things to do ( I was , after all , approaching the " dreaded Pinnacles ") . I indicated that I was having problems receiving him , again repeating my intentions , keeping me well clear of Class C airspace and Restricted airspace to the West . He asked if I could call him when I got to the Towers , and gave me his Mob. No. I did this , and he explained that all he wanted was for me to repeat , verbatim , precisely what he had said . I indicated to him that I was an old man , who talks slow and thinks the same way ( I can imagine what he thought about that , 'an old man in his airspace ' ) , and that perhaps he should consider this in future , to which he agreed , saying nobody had told him that before . Interestingly , he also indicated that he had'nt heard of Starke Field before , yet it is clearly marked on the VTC , in his area of responsibility . His manner was courteous at all times , and we parted good mates . I do seem to recall the good Major saying some weeks prior , that it was probably not necessary to call the Tower - " wise words Maj." .

Bob

I think Jabiru have bigger problems at the moment than getting the engines to start in cold WXhttp://www.azcentral.com/business/abg/articles/2012/05/10/20120510court-aussie-firm-can-sued-arizona.html

http://www.appeals2.az.gov/Decisions/CV20110107Opinion.pdf

Bob